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Looking For Some Opinions On Some Confederate Notes

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These are at a local auction house. Do they look like reproductions or the real deal?

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Maybe, are they made out of thin rice paper?
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I'll make sure to attend the lot viewing. Any tips on what to look for. These photos are all I have to go on currently.
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Make sure they are made out of thin rice paper!
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The feel is the best way of telling authenticity....imo.

Loupe the signatures to confirm they are handwritten...
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This site will list known repo and counterfeit CSA note S/Ns that you can check when your there. I cant make out any besides the $10.

http://www.oldcurrencyvalues.com/site/mobile?url=http://www.oldcurrencyvalues.com/Fake_Confederate_Money.html#2756
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Look real from the pictures..
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If you have a friend who collects Confederate currency by all means ask him/her to go with you. Otherwise I agree with others -- look at them in person and really LOOK at them. I would NOT remove them from the holders, have someone affiliated with the auction house to remove them for your inspection if they will. Be sure you have CLEAN hands! Good luck and do let us know what you learn.
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I hope you get them for a good price and they are authentic. This is an area of collecting I have yet to break in to, it seems fraught with dangers at every turn and I am not comfortable plunging in quite yet. Those look like a nice set though ^^
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These look genuine at first glance. No real red flags stand out to me. I agree with Techwriter and I would not remove them until they are yours. The paper is very thin on these and easy to tear if you are not very careful.

The $20 is the more scarce of the three with the five and ten being fairly common.
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Well that was an interesting experience. I arrived at the auction with plenty of time to preview the lots.

The $20 was a Sept. 2, 1861 series note. The serial # was completely faded away and the signatures were very weak. Condition was very poor with several barely visible slits/cuts in the body of the note in addition to several pinholes. I didn't see anything to make me doubt its authenticity since its signatures were faded brown ink and the edges were cut rather crudely like they should be with Confederate Currency. It ended up selling for $80 plus a 15% buyers premium which I thought was extremely high considering the damage. I didn't want this note at any cost.

The $10 was a Feb, 1863 series. It had bold serial #'s and signatures and was in fairly nice condition with the exception of a tear at the top of the note. I didn't see anything to make me doubt its authenticity, the paper, ink, color, and the quality of the vignettes looked correct compared to examples I looked at online. It sold for $45 plus a 15% buyers premium. I didn't even bid since I saw comparable examples on ebay in the $20-25 range.

The $5 was a Feb, 1863 series as well. The serial numbers and signatures were a bit faded but the note was in decent condition with no visible tears or other defects. nice condition with the exception of a tear at the top of the note. I didn't see anything to make me doubt its authenticity, the paper, ink, color, and the quality of the vignettes looked correct compared to examples I looked at online. It sold for $55 plus a 15% buyers premium. I bid it up to $30 but dropped out when a new bidder jumped in. I believe comparable examples on ebay were in the $25 range.

Well I think these results bode well for the hobby. Countless bidders were examining these notes all night long including several younger people in their twenties. There were some other junky notes and coins that all brought far more than they should have realized.
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Well at least I learned something and perhaps in the future I'll be at an auction with lesser competition.

Thanks everyone for your comments.
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Notes in the 20-25 range are usually beat on ebay. Sounds to me they sold for about what they are worth (If they're indeed real). I am actually skeptical of the $5 1863.. These notes from 1863 had the date stamped in red ink vertically. The cuts/slits you saw were most likely the early cross cut cancellations.

Better luck next time, it's always nice to find notes for much cheaper then they are valued at.
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