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I won this uncleaned Roman bronze on ebay tonight. It looks like it's an Honorius VIRTVS EXERCITI AE-3. From what I can see it looks like there are some decent details under the dirt. I'll post more photos after I've got it cleaned up.

Here's the type I think it is:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ce...Default.aspx

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 Posted 03/05/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree Paul.

Definitely a coin with lots of potential. Hard to find true "uncleaned" coin these days
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Sweet, adds some suspense.
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 Posted 03/06/2016  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it will clean up nicely.
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looking forward to the after photos.
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Nice set of coins. If I may ask what will be the process you will use to uncover the identity of these coins?
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I soak coins like this in distilled water and/or hydrogen peroxide. For cleaning I use a nylon brush and do some careful work with a set of dental tools I have. I think this coin should clean up nicely.
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 Posted 03/07/2016  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah, that should clean up nice indeed paul. dirt of that texture/color in pics usually comes of well it seems to me.
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Looks like you'll get quite a bit of detail with the soak and scrub. Good stuff.
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Still waiting on the coin. There is no information with the tracking number. I emailed the seller yesterday asking if he'd sent it, but haven't heard back.
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The coin finally arrived today. The seller had problems with the shipping labels so it was delayed.

It's soaking in hydrogen peroxide right now.

I'll post photos as the cleaning proceeds.
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The coin is cleaned. It turned out to be Arcadius. Not quite as nice as I had hoped, but still an attractive example for this type.

The emperor's figure on the reverse is a weakly struck, but the rest of the coin is nice. I left a bit of dirt on it to contrast with the black patina.

I soaked it in hydrogen peroxide and used a nylon brush.

Here's a link to a similar coin on VCoins:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/an...Default.aspx

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Well done Paul. I think it looks great.

I am always drawn to coins with nice clear mint marks
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The coin turned out very nicely, Paul, but I messed up. I originally had it in mind to suggest a cleaning method that would have left you with a legitimate sand patina and contrasting dark elements at all of the raised points. The process is simplicity itself.

For next time: Rub the coin between your thumb and forefinger continuously until the sand material gets down to the desired level. Obviously you keep an eye out to make sure you are not damaging the coin, and stop at the first sign of anything wrong. Also, you can switch to an alternate method at any point, as you prefer. But by this method you can get an appealing sand patina presentation of the features that is authentic (unless the encrustation was artificially applied in the first place).

It's a matter of personal preference which approach to coins like this you want to follow - the look of sand patina or one that gets down to the true patina of the metal. This coin had the potential for a good look by either method.
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I've never heard of the rubbing method. I'll have to try it. I have a lovely Aurelian/Vabalathus antoninianus with heavy sand patina that I'd like to reduce a bit to bring out more of the details. I may just give this a try with it.

I talked with a dealer at the Chicago International Coin Fair a few years ago who says he uses the edge of a razor blade to shave off sand. I've not been brave enough to try that.
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