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1981 Penny With A "P" Mint Mark?

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So I found this penny with a P coming out of the fields and not engraved into it. I think in order for this happen the die had to be like this? I don't know what exactly am I looking at? The coin doesn't appear to be "stamped" were the P is carved into the surface, the P is coming out of the surface. I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at here? Thanks for any help.

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What does the reverse look like?
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the back looks just like a normal Memorial penny. I'm not exactly sure what I'm look at with this P mark on the front obverse side.
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There is a trick they used to do to coins. They would take and push an image through a coin with two dies:
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I know that would be a lot large and change the height of the coin. But try this; Look at the edge of the 'P' with a scope or strong glass glass to see if it is glued to the surface of the coin? There could be an edge you might see around the anomaly.

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I've taken some more photos of the coin. At first I thought that the coin was stamped because of the way the light reflects off of it it looks like the P is carved into the coin or stamped into the coin with the P being lower into the surface of the coin. But when I looked under the microscope it appears that the P is coming out of the surface of the coin and is actually higher than the surface of the coin.

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let me try that
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Someone just soldiered on their own for fun?
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Well it is way to large for a mint mark. There were no 'P' mint marked cents. I also see a die scratch from the nose that shows on the field under that would be gone if the field was hovelled to make the anomaly.
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I tried taking some more photos under my scope with the coin held at an angle to try and get see the edge of the P. Do these help at all?

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Yes. I can see where the loop is made from an different piece than the upright. You can see glue or soldier on the last image someone used to fasten it to the coin on the top of the 'P'. (last image)
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haha ok somebody just soldered it on after it was minted?
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Looks like that. Maybe they wanted to make the only 'P' mint marked cent.
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Can we see an image of the whole coin? Obv and rev.
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Keep it, it's interesting :D
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Ya I think I'll keep it. I posted both sides a couple posts up. Thanks for the help guys.
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