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2015 With Incuse Doubling, Is This A DDR?

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Ok, I have found one and attempted to photograph it so it is visible. It is a 2015 with the letters in "UNUM" (which are incuse) narrowed or smaller as I have been lead to believe is due to the effects of a DOUBLED DIE? I do see how the process could have this effect, but am still in doubt about it causing ONLY this effect. I am catching on though :)
I have provided one photo with lines to show where the narrowing or smaller gaps are due to the doubling. This does seem to look like the photos Coop provides as reference for INCUSE DOUBLING. Thoughts, opinions?
Thanks in advance,
Robert

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One more photo...

Robert

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Here is one of coop's images of doubling on UNUM:


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now, after seeing those images, I feel confident that is what I have. Mine is not as strong, or dominant of an effect.. I also got to looking at my images after posting them and feel that I should have put lines on the RIGHT side of the uppers on the N and M, as I can see it in the last two photos now.
Thanks Pete2226,
Robert
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Also on this die that struck the reduced EPU incuse devices, were very strong doubling on the rest of the devices of the that are raised. So if you don't have the raised devices, doubled, then it is probably not hub doubling.
The first place to look is on the initials:
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That is where most of the doubled dies are easiest found on this series.
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I am not seeing doubling on your coin. Perhaps you could post photos of the initials - as coop suggested?
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I gathered from what Coop said, it was doubling. He just didn't believe it was HUB doubling, or from the same as what created the image he posted, which I would clearly agree with. It is not as strong of an offset. I do not see any doubling of the initials and wont be posting any pics of them. It was my understanding after having established a couple of days ago, that mechanical or machine damage ENLARGED incuses and hub doubling or DOUBLED DIE reduced them.
I posted what I found, thinking it may qualify and not wanting to risk auctioning off a good one. I am not a collector and only got into this from an inheritance I have had to deal with. The coin inspecting has now infected me and I do it to all coins, not just the inherited ones I am dealing with.
I thank you for your help. If you are a collector and lover of these coins and see me post one you really like, let me know and I will send it to you for your help!
Thanks,
Robert
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The coin inspecting has now infected me and I do it to all coins, not just the inherited ones I am dealing with.


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