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Looking For Books On New England Exonumia

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Hello exonumia forum!

I have bought and traded for enough Maine tokens I decided I really should buy the book. Does anyone know of any books on the New England states?

Here is a list I found but all the states, even Massachusetts, is absent.
http://www.louisiana-trade-tokens.com/books.html
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I found a list of exonumia books on another forum https://www.cointalk.com/threads/bo...umia.233203/

The only book that list contained for Maine was Commemorative Medals, Pins and Other Collectibles of the State of Maine by Robert C. Hamlyn 2004

According to that, there aren't catalogs for Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont.

I don't know if Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900 by Russell Rulau will have what your after or not.

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For whatever strange reason many of the eastern states are not well represented in any of the exonumic publications. The midwest and west coast are well represented with books updated on a regular basis, but not the east coast.
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Thanks you three. I will track down that book.
East cost provinces too seem to lack a lot of exonumia literature.

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After Googling the book I only found the thread to coin talk and the Houlton Stamps and Coin.

I added the word "book" and found a so-called dollar forum with this bit of infomation...


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I've never run across Bob Heath but in 2004 Robert C. Hamlyn published a looseleaf 200 page detailed color photo's book "Commemorative Medals, Pins and other Collectables of the State of Maine and the Cities & Towns There-In." which is quite fascinating and detailed. Has hundreds of these commemratives listed. It is what made me decide too big undertaking and to collect and research these only up t0 1916. I just leafed through it and a majority of the issues are V.H. Blackinton just as you indicated in your post. Think he may have more issues than Medalic Arts.



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Here is an article Dick Johnson wrote for E-Sylum inspired by rjesinger's post:

ROBERT HEATH'S NEW ENGLAND MEDAL CATALOGS

Dick Johnson submitted this note on Bob Heath's catalogs of the medals of the New England states. Thanks! I added an image of Bob's Connecticut pamphlet I found on ebay. -Editor

Heath Commemorative Medals of ConnecticutWhile reading an inquiry on Jeff Shevlin's blog at So-Called Dollar Discussion Forum a correspondent mentioned he had acquired one of Bob Heath's books on the medals of one of the six New England states. Since this relates to some scarce numismatic literature I'll comment in The E-Sylum as well as on Jeff's blog.

Robert Raymond Heath (1934-2005) -- he probably was not related to ANA's founder Dr George Heath - but Bob Heath is considered the founder and chronicler of the commemorative medals issued by New England towns and cities. He had fun gathering these medals and cataloging them. I sold him a few of these when I was a medal dealer. We chatted often.

He gathered what facts he could: metal varieties, edge looped or plain, issue price, and assigned a catalog number; he then described both sides and added what other facts he could find -- who designed them, who struck -- the obscure datum of each medal. The accumulation of this info forms the collector lore we all like to learn about specimens in our collections.

Beginning in 1977 he published a list of Commemorative Medals of Massachusetts Cities and Towns. Massachusetts was his home state, an obvious first to publish. Other states followed. When he acquired enough new specimens he published a new "edition" using existing pages.

He typed up his data and placed this with an illustration of the medal, one medal per page. His pages were all 8½ x 5½ -- half the size of normal paper - he could get two pages to each photocopied sheet. He liked the loose-leaf format. He didn't number the pages, but placed the date he compiled or revised the info at the bottom of each page. This way he could update any new data or insert a new page with fresh data for any newly acquired specimen at any time.

His numbering system was particularly ingenious. He gave a serial number - one up -- for all town and city names in a state arranged alphabetically. Then a chronological number for each medal in that town or city. Boston, for example is MA 035 with 39 medals listed.

I acquired a complete set of all six states listings before he died. Here are the six:

· Connecticut -- four editions to 1996 - 175 medals.

· Maine -- three editions to 1994 - 174 medals.

· Massachusetts -- seven editions to 1995 - 626 medals.

· New Hampshire -- five editions to 1997. - 218 medals.

· Rhode Island --. four editions to 1997 -- 42 medals.

· Vermont -- four editions to 1997 - 45 medals.

Total all editions - 1,280 medals.

In a subsequent conversation I asked Bob why didn't he gather all this in one listing of all New England states and print this in one book or pamphlet. That would take away all the fun, he said.

He started selling parts of his collection before he died, but afterwards continuing the task of revising state lists was assigned to four fellow collectors. I related this in an E-Sylum item (Volume 9, Number 13, Article 3) where I listed the names of the four collectors. However, I have not learned of any such revised editions being published.

Perhaps that is just as well. Illinois numismatist Sheldon Banoff has been collecting all American city AND state medals for nearly five decades. He cannot tell me the total number he has -- or is aware of -- but it is probably more than five thousand. Now, THAT'S THE CATALOG I want to acquire!

To visit the So-Called Dollar Discussion Forum, see: so-calleddollar.com/Forum/

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see: BOB HEATH'S MEDAL CATALOGS TO CONTINUE (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v09n13a03.html)


Side Note:

Houlton Stamp and Coin has some cool stuff online but in person they have none of that in there store. I would ask about local tokens and they said they had none. Nice guys, bought some silver, but I found it a bit of a local token let down.
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Harmonica, thanks for your time and wealth of information.
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Well thank you bpoc1! All I did was google and copy and paste but it is always nice to feel appreciated.

Next month at the collector club I want to write down what one of our senior members from Presque Isle told me about the Aroostook Medals Co. I have a 3 piece wooden nickel set they put out. I forgot most of the details but from what I remember a group of 4 dealers/collectors from Northern Maine got together and made 3 piece commemorative sets for municipalities. They would come in a case with one nickel, bronze and I think gold plated nickel. Anyways I will get the name of the 4 men and try to get a list of medals they stock. Be nice to get some original research on this forum.

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This is THE book to have. If you can find a hard copy for under $75, buy it; this, if only as an investment. Amazon has them for $135 and up. I suggest getting the Krause download for $48. It's a searchable and portable alternative for acquiring the 4th edition, which is a massive volume.
Here's the link:

http://www.krausebooks.com/standard...ens-download
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How is the book organized ExoGuy? Do they have chapters for types of tokens (example: Chapter 1; Milk Tokens) or is it organized by state (Example: Chapter 1, Alabama).

I actually want to pick up the books dedicated to specific token types like the coffee-attwood catalogs.
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Rulau's book is generally divided by era: 1) Early American tokens (pre-1832); 2) Hard Times (1832-44); 3) Merchant Era (1845-60); 4) Civil War tokens (1861-65); 5) Trade Era (1866-89); and, 6) Gay Nineties (1899-1900). Within each era, the division is made alphabetically by state, then town and merchant. There are also some special sections that deal with other popular genres. There are helpful guidelines for attributing varieties, too. There's a listing of known die sinkers and much more useful information. Of course, the pricing is much outdated. This huge volume spans over a thousand large pages. Yet, there are many thousands of pieces that could legitimately be added, nowadays. Personally, I could easily add a few hundred or more pre-Civil War counterstamps that are attributed. The same holds true for many other serious collectors, no doubt.

As useful a book as Rulau's is, there are many errors, so the information therein should not be taken as gospel. Mr. Rulau was literally bombarded with info from dozens of sources, and he took much of that info at face value. Still, his tremendous effort is laudable.

Occasionally, affordable volumes of the 4th edition turn up at auctions. A third edition would contain a large portion of the 3rd edition listings and be a reasonable and more affordable alternative for an entry level collector; this, IMHO. However, I would think that, in today's e-world, a downloadable copy of the 4th edition is preferable.
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Harmonica it depends on what time period of tokens your are trying to collect as well as what type. By this I mean the Rulau book concentrates on tokens from 1700-1900. Now if you are collecting by state and tokens that are later than 1900 this book will not do you much good. A good website to look at tokens by state is http://tokencatalog.com/ but it is user contributed site so the information again is sometimes wrong. If you decide you want the Rulau book Exo refers to then pm me as I have a 4th edition that is unused. All my notes are in the 3rd edition and too much work to transfer. What you will end up doing is buying/using several reference items as each will have a particular piece you will need.
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