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Trade Dollar Counter-Stamps: - Valuation, Reasons, Process....

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I have seen these counter-stamps on Trade dollars (TD) before as well as on other types of coins.

However, with the express purpose of FOCUSING IN ON ONLY Trade dollars , hopefully more detailed info. on this phenomenon will surface from the family:

1) Why do these counter-stamps appear?

2) Does the side (obv. or rev.) that they appear on have any particular significance?

3) Do they increase or devalue these type of coins?

3)a Do specific years command more $ because of their presence?

5) At what stage in the life of a TD does the author of this verbiage actually imprint the coin?

6) Do various methods exist to enact the imprinting?

7) Does a reliable database exist expounding upon the relevant characteristics of each different counter-stamp applicable to all TD years?

I encourage all readers to join in with any other related questions and/or answers for the TD only.

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I got the idea of this from another thread,




Go to Exoguy's 7:38 PM 3/25/16 post to see the counter-stamped TD in question.


Ideally, I want to expand this topic to all Trade dollars.

So if one would prefer to start off by focusing in on the above TD, go ahead but try to keep in mind the long term goal...

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Mdpmedia, great questions.
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Here's the Trade dollar that initiated this thread ...

Trade-Dollar-Counter-Stamps:---Valuation,-Reasons,-Process....

Trade-Dollar-Counter-Stamps:---Valuation,-Reasons,-Process....

In his 2003 catalog, Dr. Brunk recorded four specimens of this counterstamp, B#-453, with the latest date being 1878. Three of them were Trade dollars: 1875, 1877 and 1878. There was one quarter, dated 1875. It's likely that more specimens have yet to be recorded. Note that Brunk does not typically record mintmarks, simply the dates.

Neither Brunk nor Rulau offered an attribution back then, being 2003-4. Dur to the unusual surname and combination of initials, R.I. LOMAS, I believe that the issuer was one Robert I. Lomas, a NY City restauranteur. Here are my database notes ... I use cap letters for easier reading:

ROBERT I. LOMAS APPEARS IN TROW'S 1872 NY CITY DIRECTORY AT 303 GRAND AVE, SELLING DRY GOODS, ALSO, HE HAD AN EATING HOUSE AT 243 CENTRE ST. HIS PARTNER IN THE DRY GOODS BUSINESS WAS A WM. ABBOTT. HE MAINTAINED HIS RESTAURANT BETWEEN 1859-86; THIS, AS PER DIRECTORY LISTINGS. LOMAS DIED ON MAY 3, 1899, AT HIS BROOKLYN HOME. HE WAS A MASON, A MEMBER OF PUTNAM LODGE. UPON HIS DEMISE, THE TRENTON TIMES DESCRIBED HIM AS "A FAMOUS RESTAURANT MAN OF OLDER NY."

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I'll add that after 1876 Trade dollars had their legal tender status revoked and were only worth the silver they contained. About a decade later, the government provided a limited time where unmutilated ones could be exchanged.
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