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Is A Lack Of Cracking Along The Edge Of A Coin A Sign Of Counterfeit?

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I have been looking at various silver Denarii and some of the older and seemingly more desirable ones have smooth edges as opposed to some more modern ones that usually show a few cracks. Should this be a concern or is a result of better process or higher silver content or some other factor?
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The second coin is a "serratus" meaning the edge is like a bottletop. This is by design on some coins and not others. It is a separate issue to cracked metal (as a result of crystallisation)

Sometimes cracking is a giveaway to the authenticity (close inspection can show whether it is natural or it is imitative) but a good coin with no cracks is preferable IMO.



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Most coins were struck with the rounded edge which might show cracks. Some coins were struck with a serrated edge as shown in your second example. Neither are a sign of being real or not, there are many more factors to consider to determine a genuine from a fake coin.

While there are many go sellers on ebay it's best to not look their until you you are able to tell the good from the bad. I would recommend buying from Vcoins. Here is a link to the Denarius they have listed for sale.
https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...signed=False
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These "cracks" around the edge of a coin formed when the coin was first struck. Whether or not cracks formed depends partly on how heavily the coin was struck and partly on how "plastic" the metal was at the time, which in turn depends on the exact composition of the alloy and whether or not the blanks were heated prior to striking. Another variable that can affect the appearance of cracking is the original shape of the blank: a coin struck from a round ball of metal is more likely to crack than a coin struck from a blank that was flat to start with.

Minting techniques varied over time, as did metal composition. So it is not surprising that denarii from different periods show different levels of edge cracking.

In my experience, the earliest denarii, made of very high fineness silver (typically 95%) show little evidence of flan cracking, except of course for the serrated denarii where edge cracking was deliberately induced by carving notches into the blanks. After about the reign of Hadrian, the fineness started a gradual decline and the alloy became more dilute and more brittle; coins of Commodus and the Severan dynasty (Septimus Severus and his descendants) appear to be the worst, with their coins often showing severe flan cracking. But as time progresses and the alloy continues to decline in fineness, the appearance of flan cracks tends to diminish once again, with usually only one or two large flan cracks present if any, rather than multiple smaller ones.

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Denarius of the Republic period - no flan cracks

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Denarius of Commodus - very rough edge caused my multiple small and medium-sized flan cracks

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Denarius of Elagabalus - edge cracking still present but less severe

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Siliqua of Julian II - single unusually large flan crack.
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Sap,

I think the OP was confused in his use of terminology, referring to what we know as "serration" as simple "cracking." His choice of illustrations suggests that interpretation. Still, a bit of perspective about flan splitting on striking is of interest to the rest of us, and worth while as another subject, I think.
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I believe what I was trying to ask is that does a lack of cracking indicate a cast forgery or not? The responses have been helpful on multiple levels. Thanks to everyone!
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