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Lowered Mintage! Only 12,500 Proof Sets - 2016 150th Anniversary Of The Transatlantic Cable

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 Posted 04/19/2016  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Smart tactics for RCM could be to issue limited mintage sets (3K-5K for example), and after it, when the sets will be sold-out, to issue individual coin (the SD).
This was done for 1935 - 2010 and 1911 - 2011 sets.

The 2010 and 2011 SE sets and individual SE SDs were available simultaneously - the individual coins did not follow a sell-out of the sets.

I remember debating whether I wanted to order just the individual coin or both the set and single coin.

I think it would be a mistake - and a subject of much derisive debate - if the RCM issued special edition individual coins only after the sell-out of a set that contains it.

Folks here debated for pages about the RCM increasing the number of cardboard boxes for the $20-for-$20 coins after they released a figure for the initial production! I can only imagine the level of negative comments that would ensue if the RCM upped the "limited edition" mintage of an actual coin after the fact.



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 Posted 04/19/2016  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, you right, Commems

I didn't take in account, that if the single SD will be released later, so not clear how will be the mintage represented initially.

So yes, both products should be simultaneously released, giving opportunity to purchase the "main coin" for all.
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Since 2012, when the $99 Proof set - Silver Dollar was first released as a secondary type of Proof set (the other, appx $230 and all coins silver) it's interesting to observe the diminishing mintage. Meanwhile the mintage of the higher priced silver Proof Set has remained more or less constant at 20000/25000. While not all sets may have been sell-outs, mintage numbers do indicate how many sets RCM forecasts it may sell.

Look at the numbers fall:

2012 - 40000
2013 - not issued (Silver Dollar included in Specimen Set mintage 20000)
2014 - 30000
2015 - 20000
2016 - 12500
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darn - I guess there are 3 versions of 100th Anniversary of the Canadian Arctic Expedition going to have to check to see which one I'm missing - I know I have the Gold plated version - missing either the Proof or Specimen
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There are actually four 2013 Canadian Arctic Expedition SDs: Proof, Gold-plated Proof, Specimen and Brilliant Uncirculated.


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Yes that's true, I just don't collect the BU version and wouldn't bother with this except that 2013 is the only year that a Specimen SD is minted
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 Posted 04/20/2016  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
12,500 is still too many. Until the mint reduces numbers to under 5000 for most coins in the 60-140 dollar range, the secondary market values will never surpass the original purchase price and in most cases will remain in the 50% or lower range.
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Just FYI for those who ordered this set but are still waiting for its delivery...

I called the RCM on Friday to check on the shipping status of my set. I was told that my order did not get filled with the first batch of the coins that were produced. So, I need to wait until the next batch is ready which is currently due at the end of May with fulfillment to customers anticipated in early June.


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