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What Exactly Is "Public Outcry" When It Comes To Coins?

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 Posted 04/14/2016  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hepcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Same is true for the Type 1 Standing Liberty quarters from 1916 and 1917--according to all sources, "public outcry" was responsible for getting Liberty's naked right breast covered up to create a Type II coin.


Can you imagine the frothing at the mouth and outraged moral indignation that would occur these days if a woman's naked breast was depicted on a coin? Why the Bible thumpers would denounce this assault on public morals and march on Washington!

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In Canada, when the new coins for the new king George V first came out in 1911, they omitted the usual "dei gratia" part of the legend (Canadian coins had never borne the "fidei defensor" title). Again there was church-led criticism at the de-christianization of the coinage and again, the Mint restored the "dei gratia" on the coinage the following year. The Canadian Mint has never dared to remove "D.G." from the coinage since.


How embarassing! Not only do we have that relic of colonialism the Queen on our coins, but there's also a nod to organized religion (at taxpayers' expense of course).

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I've always taken the 'public outcry' explanation for granted, but this thread has shed quite a bit of light on the topic for me. For the VDB Lincolns, the story I've heard is that Brenner didn't want his initials on the coin, but the explanation about Barber makes sense considering his personality.
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I recall reading an historical account about the SLQ in question, and how some important blowhard referred to the coin as "smut."
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How embarassing! Not only do we have that relic of colonialism the Queen on our coins, but there's also a nod to organized religion (at taxpayers' expense of course).


I'm a good boy. I am raising my cats gender neutral and work 3 part time minimum wage jobs so I can afford my Mensa membership. I shouldn't be triggered like this ever time I take out 3 toonies to buy a cup of fair trade tea!

Now back to public outcry on coins/currency.

The devil hair Queen is relatively well known but take a look at this offensive note!

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I am not sure if you can hover over the image to see what the jpeg was saved at but does anyone know why this bill sparked a minor controversy? I will answer my own question if nobody gets it. I imagine some of you do know but those that don't take a good look and see what is "off" about it. It is one of those thing sthat once you see it it is all you will ever see.

As for a more recent example I never even heard of this up here in Canada untill someone else pointed it out to me. I guess it wasn't that big a deal after all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/asi...ls-1.1183360

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Yes, how DARE they portray a minority woman in a positive light! *Triggering intensifies*

Since Conder has brought it up, I did actually have a customer refuse to take a gold $1 specifically because of the "godless" issue. He shut right up when I informed him that such coins were very rare and valuable errors.
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It is one of those thing sthat once you see it it is all you will ever see.

You're right. It took me a while to find it, but now it jumps out.
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It is one of those thing sthat once you see it it is all you will ever see.


Oh, brother. One of those "subliminal seductions" that a foolish man named W. B. Key got the American public all worried about in the 1970s.

But all I see are palm trees!
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I know this will be interesting reading for CCF. These are actual 1909 newspaper clippings dealing with the 1909 Lincoln Penny in chronological order. Happy reading...


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Interesting articles. Thanks for sharing them.
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Most people hated Morgan dollars when they came out. They said that they were too big, and that the eagle on the reverse looked like a turkey Buzzard. Kind of ironic since the Morgan is the most popular coin the US has ever made.
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I know this will be interesting reading for CCF. These are actual 1909 newspaper clippings dealing with the 1909 Lincoln Penny in chronological order. Happy reading...
Excellent! Thank you.
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The second paper clipping mentions that coins would be "produced simultaneously in Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Denver." A couple things:

1. Denver would not produce any cents until 1911, and I don't think it was even operational in 1909?
2. The New Orleans Mint *was* operational in 1909... why is it not mentioned?
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1. Denver would not produce any cents until 1911, and I don't think it was even operational in 1909?
2. The New Orleans Mint *was* operational in 1909... why is it not mentioned?

1. You're right about them not producing cents in 1909, but the Denver branch mint opened in 1906.
2. New Orleans only struck gold and silver, and by that point it was in its last days anyway.
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I recall reading an historical account about the SLQ in question, and how some self-important blowhard referred to the coin as "smut."


Corrected for accuracy.

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