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Montgomery Valued Member Canada 429 Posts	Posted 04/17/2016 6:49 pm I recently buy this 1968 penny graded MS-65 by ICCS. Both side have some details that raise some questions. The fields are fine but the hair of the queen over the ear is missing some details (weakness of the strike). This same observation can be done on the reverse with the leaf were the detail are missing with a rough finish. May be I'm wrong but to get a 65, you need a full strike. Just by seeing this one, MS-64 would be the max for the weakness of the strike itself? Thanks Report this Post to the Staff

Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 04/17/2016 10:37 pm That's the ICCS a technical grade. The obverse on the ear is from die burn not circulation. Now, the reverse almost looks like it was struck twice in collar, or massive die clash? The 1969 pennies are found with being double struck in collar but not 1968 that I know of. Report this Post to the Staff
Montgomery Valued Member Canada 429 Posts	Posted 04/19/2016 10:01 am May be it's the picture but I can't see die clash with coin in hand. What is evaluated when a grade is apply to a coin? For me, a MS-65 is a near perfect coin with a strong strike with details without weakness. IT's true, the coin never circulated but the grade in case of a MS state should reflect also the quality of the coin? Suppose we have 2 coin in hand. The first one with perfect field but the hair and crown have less details. The second one have perfect field too but a strong strike. In the case of coin before, the die burning would lower for me the grade even if it's not circulation just becouse it's not a good strike with detail. May be I'm a bit too fussy... Report this Post to the Staff
john100 Pillar of the Community Canada 5324 Posts	Posted 04/19/2016 10:10 am That's one of the problem with ICCS, eye appeal doesn't count. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 04/19/2016 10:50 am But, ICCS is what the Canadian market wants. So while my personal collection is in PCGS holders (and I do like the Registry Set game), coins I sell are in ICCS flips... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
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