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1957-D Wheat Blocked Die?

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 Posted 02/18/2008  07:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been making a wheat folder for my nephew and I found this 1957-D looks its been in dryer but the reverse show no damage.
Is clogged or blocked die?

1957-D-Wheat---Blocked-Die?


1957-D-Wheat---Blocked-Die?

1957-D-Wheat---Blocked-Die?

1957-D-Wheat---Blocked-Die?

The reverse show no damage plus Abe's face has 2 lines down it that look like they were struck there
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 Posted 02/18/2008  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say I'm not completely sure on this one, but it appears to be damage.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuck that's what I thinking but the reverse in to good of shape for to dryer damage. but it could have stayed on the reverse some how and obverse be the only part to get damaged.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could also have been in something that protected the reverse, was a pocket piece, and wore the obverse down so much. I really don't know on this one. If it's a mint-caused event, I would like to hear from someone who knows what it is so I can learn from it.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
me too this one baffles me.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NGiles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen coins that have been air erased. And by that I mean a small, hand held, sand blaster. They use baking soda and air pressure. On some coins like Morgans, it gives it a lustery appearance, that looks somewhat original. I've seen people try it to "erase" scratches. It creates pitting similar to what I see on this coin. Maybe they were testing it out on this coin. If your not careful you can leave lines like the ones on the face. And it would only effect the one side. I don't recommend it naturally.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That a new one to me!
I also just read Coin World folk are using lasers to fool TPG that the coin they sent was not cleaned
where theres a will theres away!
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Hmmm....I'm seeing some concentric marks on the obverse, and one looks like it could've flattened the 7 in the date. What if this is simply damage from a counting or vending machine, and then it returned circulation for years? Just a thought.
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KurtS, I don't think that is the case here. The marks left by the counting machuines, and the rolling machines are more centralized. this "damage appears to be complete. The "air blasting " is a new one on me, but entirely feasable. New type of "whizzing"?
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 Posted 02/23/2008  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion; because the "L" and the "7" are far more worn/less visible in the respective circumferential path than "God We": weak obv strike, circulation wear, and damage.
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 Posted 02/23/2008  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
j_h_s you may be right? this coin has been in large jug I keep common dates It was just odd looking strike so I posted it.

Thanks you! to all the folks who help!
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Here is my hypothetical. It's damage, (does not have the look of a Dryer Coin, the surface is too pitted) but here's a scenario that fits the picture.

First the obverse was damaged by a counting machine resulting in the concentric lines and the damaged 7.

Then a collector or a kid in a high school science class, not wanting to damage an undamaged coin, used this coin in the typical acid eats cent experiment that was prevalent in the 1960s and 1970s high school science class.

Using an eye dropper, acid was placed on the damaged obverse which caused the pitting and the weakness.

Some of the acid overflowed off the edge of the coin and ran under it a little bit to slightly effect the outer edge of the reverse. (Note that the center of the reverse is still pretty strong, but the edge is a little weaker and crusty.)

I don't see an error here, just an accumulation of damages.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 02/24/2008  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks bill!
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 Posted 02/24/2008  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would completely agree with Bill except for the reverse part...the coin looks completely normal on the reverse, except for a spot of corrosion.

The pitting on the obverse, though, tells me this didn't come from the mint that way. It's odd for sure...but I highly doubt an error.
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 Posted 02/24/2008  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks chuck the obverse & reverse are like night & day. and all who posted there opinion's!!
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