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I won this auction, but didn't expect what showed up when the envelope was opened. Am currently negotiating with the seller for a full return of purchase price, they want to deduct for return shipping, etc. The reverse is excellent. Am I being to picky? Price was good and only intended to eventually flip it. Thanks, Ed Seller's auction pic:  My Pics, not the best, but you get the idea:   Edited by edweather
04/19/2016 2:10 pm
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My opinion, the grade is correct. Buyers need to be very careful when buying slabbed MS60/61 coins.
Is the coin slightly clipped?
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04/19/2016 2:05 pm
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Coins appear different in different types of light, actually in both photos it does not look bad at all for an MS61, I would just pay the return shipping out of pocket and be done with it if I was not happy with the coin, certainly not worth getting worked up for a couple of bucks...
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Not clipped, it's the holder material. Do you think the MS61 is a net grade? Besides the spots, there's hardly a bag mark on it.
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MS/PR-61 No wear. Multiple heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full Definition of MS61... I think multiple distracting spots would warrant an MS61 grade... Now, if someone were to properly 'conserve' that coin and and it no longer had those distracting spots, it may well be an MS64...  |
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Not too worried about the return shipping, but there's also something about a 20% restocking fee, so just want to make sure everything is clear up front. Should have linked to the auction, but paid $241 shipped. Not sure if I want to keep it or not, which is why I started the thread. Other MS61s have sold for quite a bit more, but this might be the bottom of the MS61 barrel.
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04/19/2016 2:23 pm
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You are being too picky on this one as the coin appears to be correctly graded. The seller's photos do show all the spots. If I simply do not like a coin, I have no problems paying for the return shipping.
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Was the 20% restocking fee noted by seller in listing?
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04/19/2016 2:35 pm
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Here's how I see it.
If the pictures that were posted are of the actual coin, not altered, and not hiding a portion of the coin, then I think they are in the right. Coins can look drastically different between photos methods of photography and lighting and so many more factors. A seller is not expected to display the worst photos possible in order to cover all cases.
If pictures intentionally hide or distort facts, then I see it differently.
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BTW for the record I think your pics look better, and I wonder if that's why the coin sold for less than others. Although the spots show up more on yours, the detail is wayyyyy clearer.
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The lighting and the angle were clearly meant to minimize the coin's flaws, but I think you can reasonably expect that when you see a coin photographed in this way. I'm not sure you have much ground to stand on. On the other hand, I think that kind of presentation, combined with a 20% restocking fee, is enough to establish this dealer as somebody you wouldn't want to do business with again.
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Although the seller used poor light for the picture it is still good enough to tell there are spots on the obverse. There ae no new spots on your pics, they just stand out better. So if the sellers intention was to deceive buyer with the photo, they didn't do a very good job of it.
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Not sure if I want to keep it or not, which is why I started the thread. Other MS61s have sold for quite a bit more, but this might be the bottom of the MS61 barrel I don't think this is the bottom of the MS61 barrel, but right around the middle. IMO, an accurately graded MS61... I looked up the listing and saw the seller did clearly state in the auction that there is 20% restocking fee. That, plus the fact that the pictures from the listing IMO do accurately show the look of the coin, not sure you would have much ground to stand on for trying to get back the full refund without paying the restocking fee. (Unless you were to pull the whole 'ITEM NOT AS DESCRIBED' thing with ebay) Quote:
Price was good and only intended to eventually flip it I think if you went to a mid-sized coin show, you could get a cash deal pretty easily for above the price you paid P.S.- I have an AU58 that I paid quite a bit more for than this one! |
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Really appreciate all the feedback. Seller wants to charge me $25 for the return. Definitely not worth it. Not sure how hard I want to press ebay on the free return/not as described issue. Might own it for a while, but hopefully will be able to make a couple of bucks on it at some point. I'm actually glad that most of you see it as accurately graded. |
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I'd keep it and flip it later... Sounds like you got a decent deal, and the coin is well graded.
Can you post pictures of the reverse?
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The lighting and the angle were clearly meant to minimize the coin's flaws How can you make that statement? Because the picture came out how the picture came out the seller was acting with malfeasance? |
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