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I was sorting Lincoln cents the other day and came up with one that seems to be hit twice. It is not as obvious as some doubled dies but I can't take a picture close up. Any pics of 1995 double dies would be appreciated.
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What is the difference between LDS MDS and EDS markers? just wondering
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It looks like the second link but more prominent.
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Both of the pictures coppercoins linked to show doubled dies. They are different ones both on 1995 Lincoln cents. EDS, MDS and LDS refer to the condition of the die that struck the coin. Early Die State (EDS) Mid (some say Middle) Die State (MDS) Late Die State (LDS) There are also variations such as EMDS , which would be Early Mid Die State, for example. These terms refer to the stage the die was in as it struck the coin. As a die is used, the die itself wears and the details on the coin become less crisp. MD refers to a type of damage that appears as doubling. It is called Machine Doubling. Machine Doubling has no value. If this leads to other questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks |
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Bill, BJ Neff brought up a good point today, about MD. The fact that it occurs"during thr minting process" should make it fall in the category of "errors". Why doesn't it? Just curious. It does, in Canada. I ralize we are not Canada, butI'm curious.
Dick
Pantherman, I tried to reply to yoyur wuestion about the book, but can't keep logged in, and there for couldn't abswer. I seem to be okay on the US forum, so I'll answer here, yes, I am interested in the book. I also seek info re the buying directly from the Mint(s). Any suggestions?
Dick
Edited by livingdinasaur
02/19/2008 9:12 pm
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We tend to consider errors as something out of the ordinary that happens during the minting process. Machine Doubling is a very, very ordinary occurrence that is not considered as an error as the Mint accepts it as a normal part of the minting process. If it is normal, by definition it wouldn't be considered as an error. There is Machine Doubling on practically every coin if you examine it closely enough. Edited by foundinrolls
02/19/2008 9:20 pm
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Thanks foundinrolls! This makes much more sense to me now... One more question... How do you tell die states? I know you can tell by the wear of the die, but how else can you tell?
thanks,
Zacharycash
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Thanks,
I think it is a doubled die because the doubling is off the original strike.
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Panthercham, your description without seeing the coin sounds like it could still go either way. It could be Machine Doubling as well as a doubled die with a close spread, as we call it. Based upon your description I wouldn't call it a doubled die until someone who knows can see the coin or until we can see a picture of the coin. |
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coppercoins posted a great explanation of die states on the post that is called "questions for foundinrolls and coppercoins" (or something of that sort:-).
Read that thread first and see if any other questions are generated by his response. I'll look there for any other questions.
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If it was struck twice, it's a double-strike, not a doubled-die. A doubled-die is an error in the actual die, and can be worth considerable amounts of money. Double-strikes are pretty much worthless. MD isn't even an error.
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