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Holed Ancient Coins, Why Were They Done?

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 Posted 04/28/2016  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it's just my opinion, of which I'm basing on the patina on the coin. If the holes where done later the patina would be IMO different.
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Echizento - thanks for the welcome.

I can answer your question regarding the countersink, on the coins where the clean countersink is close to the diameter of the through hole. (Some seemed to be this way - I realize that others are a larger diameter countersink then the through hole). By viewing the pics provided, I can tell that these are "punched" holes. On the back, you see the rupture petals of metal where the punch exited.

On the Face of the coin, the punch will drive into the metal - straight down - until the metal has reached its tensile strength (point where the metal would rather shear than to compress any farther). It will then shear the plug of metal exactly under the punch. This will create the impression that there is a clean countersink down to a certain depth. IF they had had a holed material (hole the size of the punch) under the punch, then that plug of metal would have cleanly sheared out, leaving a clean rim. Since they didn't have that backer plate under these coins, then that plug just ruptured out, leaving the petals
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If the holes where done later the patina would be IMO different



Opinions can be good. If they are based on something. If the coin had been punched 500 years after manufacture, what would be different? How could you distinguish that from a punch made at the time it was in circulation?

If one cannot tell, how can one be sure it wasn't?

Maybe someone can tell?

An archaeologist would look at this piece, see the punch and say something like "... of course we can't tell for sure WHEN it was punched/drilled/holed, but the find data indicate that it was found in such-and-such context ..."
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Interesting point, but I'm going to have to disagree. If the coin was punched you would expect to see some type of deformity to the coin along with a raised lip of metal where the punch exited. That's not the case here the edges are smooth and flush with the surface. Difficult to see on the picture, more evident in hand. This still makes me believe it was drilled. Of course I can be wrong so I would like to hear what others think. you can be right.
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 Posted 04/29/2016  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here one with a tiny center hole.



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i purchased my first holed coin the day I saw this thread, I have it now so thought i'd come back at post it. it's a nice looking sassanian coin, I didn't even notice the hole when I first saw it. placed in the position it is, it didn't really detract from the coin for me.

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 Posted 05/12/2016  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin Chris.
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I think that some holes in ancient (mostly thin) coins, are much more more recent than the coins themselves.

It is a tradition that brides throughout the Middel East, often wore holed gold and / or silver coins strung together, as an adornment at the their wedding ceremony.
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 Posted 05/12/2016  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rasiel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Other than the obvious answer "as jewelry" many coins were holed to turn into armor. Threaded together with wire they could be fastened onto leather for a poor man's version of chainmail (one hole) or on shields (two holes) to strengthen against blows.

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I think this Galba Sestertius is the only holed coin I have.

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 Posted 05/12/2016  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chris, that coin is awesome.
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thanks MV...and likewise, that galba sestertius is pretty sweet!
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Finally found my holed ancients:

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Small one is Licinius I / VOT standard with captives

Larger two are Byzantine, haven't really done the work to ID them.
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