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Need Help For Identification Of A Few Coins #2

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Belgium
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 Posted 05/05/2016  5:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello CCF

me again, going ahead with some of the coins I have difficulties with

this one I know is from FLandria
silver
ranging from 30 - 32 mm
4 gr
(early belgium) but no date and no denomination was found
i did find out who was in reign Lodewijk II van Male (1346-1384)
http://www.fleurdecoin.eu/images/Li.../1112245.jpg

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second coin
27 mm
9.1 gram
inscription:
michel le tellier fr cancellarius
illius splendore micant 1684
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third coin
silver
2.3 gr
27mm
inscription
elizabeth a di gra bohf miare
verbum domini man.........
there is more inscription in the center but its not readebel

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some help is needed
again I want to thank you in advance :)
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Belgium
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 Posted 05/05/2016  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Belgium
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 Posted 05/05/2016  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmmmh I have never heard of a dubbel groot botdrager(Double groat(botdrager)bone carrier)
so its just called dubbel groot botdrager?
what was its value at that time any info on that?

wow and it was staring me in the face right here

http://www.fleurdecoin.eu/stock15_MUN2.html second coin at Lodewijk II van Male (1346-1384)section

sorry and thanks, lol
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United States
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 Posted 05/06/2016  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brummagem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi - your last item is a 1600s gambling counter of the Simon van de Passe school. It is from the "full length sovereign set" - see these:

http://www.gamesetal.net/Stock_Page...y3382_a.html

http://www.gamesetal.net/Stock_Page...ogy3382.html

http://www.ccgtcc-ccn.com/Silver%20...Counters.pdf
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Belgium
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 Posted 05/06/2016  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you Brummagem that is realy intresting information.
i would't have thought that this would a gambling token

so thanks you both ,would of been a pain to find these without help
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