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I'm taking this to be not a coin owing to the lack of any obvious denomination. Only 18mm in diameter. I believe it's silver in composition, but what fineness I cannot say. Dated 1885, but even with that clue, I'm just not turning anything up on it.   Colligo ergo sum
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05/07/2016 9:10 pm
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Ferdinand I of Austria ruled 1835-1848. You sure your "medal" is not dated 1835?
(Cannot say further without seeing the other side, sorry.)
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I think that the date should be 1835. Your picture of the reverse did not work out, but I it should read:
TVERI - FIDES AB AVSTRIA PRAESTITA VINDOB XIV JVN MDCCCXXXV
and it is a jeton commemorating a visit to Vienna on July 14 1835.
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Got the picture of the reverse up now.
And yes, 1835. "Duh" as in the phantom "D" I was somehow reading into that date. Even 1835 is somewhat late for this to be considered a true jeton, would that not be so?
I like the throwback portrait as a classic Roman emperor.
Incidentally, this came out of a "junk silver" bin today for a pittance.
Colligo ergo sum
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By this date, jeton had ceased to be synonymous with rechenpfennig. Medallion is probably the best modern fit, but certainly pieces were still being issued marked IETTON or JETON. And in France, jetons de presence were issued as a form of unofficial payment to councilors and board members.
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At the time this was issued, would've it been considered solely a souvenir, or might've it been utilized to some degree in commerce? Even with the correct date, I'm having a hard time finding specifications for this. I did find the following listing for an auction taking place this coming Monday: Macho & Chlapovi#269; - Auction 10, Lot 285 Ferdinand I of Austria, Austrian Empire Token 1835, Homage in Vienna Ferdinand I. ( Österreich ), Kaisertum Österreich Jeton 1835, Huldigung in Wien Ferdinand V., Rakúske cisárstvo Žetón 1835, Holdovanie vo Viedni Viede#328; / Vienna / Wien, Josef Daniel Boehm, 5,23 g, 20 mm, Au, Novák V-XVIII-C-3a, Frühwald p123-2, About UNC / About UNC Starting Price: 1000 EUR... Here's a picture of this item: http://www.coinarchives.com/aacea72...age00285.jpg I note that depending on the language, it's described both as a token and a jeton. I'm presuming from the price, the variance in diameter/weight, and its appearance that this would be a gold version of what I have? Colligo ergo sum
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05/07/2016 11:11 pm
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This token/jeton is outside of my collecting field, so Iam only speculating:
It might possibly be a throw-away "coin". Such tokens were produced for special visits/occasions. As the monarch/noble traveled through the streets the tokens would be thrown to the attending crowds. I don't know this particular issue... there was one Maria Theresa produced to celebrate her survival of a illness( might have been smallpox but as I am going from memory I may be wrong) on her way to a chapel to give thanks she threw her jeton to the crowds. As someone pointed out there could be a gold version, often these Auswurfmünze were ducat sized and there were gold versions for presentation to officials and nobles
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Well, I've finally found a little something on this, a "for sale" listing as follows: 1835, June 14, AR jeton for coronation in Vienna, 3.3g, XF+ Mont 2550 $40.00 The "Mont 2550" is some sort of catalogue reference? That weight's right on, and here's the photo of that specimen (which to me looks possibly polished): http://rustypennies.com/catalog/pix/bj104.jpgSince I paid less than a dollar for mine, I'm thinking I did pretty well, although I imagine the market's a pretty thin one for the obscure likes of this. What I still don't know is its fineness, though. Colligo ergo sum
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MOnt is a catalog. given the information you have I am sure it is an Auswurfmünze ( throw away money). it will be the same silver standard as kreuzers of that time. The closest thing in to it in the english speaking world would be Maundy money.
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05/08/2016 10:35 am
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...it will be the same silver standard as kreuzers of that time Which doesn't seem to have been too high - I looked up the 1835 3 kreuzer, and that was only .346 fine. Colligo ergo sum
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Auswurfmünze (throw away money) Or "largesse money", to give it a better English name. |
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