Counterfeit/Fake Perth Mint Gold Bars Showing Up On Ebay [see Pics]

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Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 3:06 pm These are some of the more recent counterfeit Perth Mint Australia gold bars produced in China. I'm not calling out any seller. But, if you purchased one, you can get restitution damages. All gold looks so pretty in Assay Cards. Wake up, be aware of low-feedback sellers, if any doubt, get these x-rayed. Report this Post to the Staff

TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 3:41 pm Pictures are from the no-no site. Report this Post to the Staff
silverai Valued Member Canada 117 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 4:59 pm Can you tell us the store name instead of store #? Report this Post to the Staff
Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 9:38 pm Sorry. Can't do that. CCF rules. I'm just alerting the public. There has been at least 4 diff. Perth Mint fakes from China in the last year. It would be advertising counterfeits for purchase by potential scam artists. Plus, I wouldn't want to tempt anyone. I know many have been sold, but, many, many buyers might never know what they got 'til they cash out. Report this Post to the Staff
Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 07/03/2016 12:42 am For the 1 ounce bar--These Green Certi-Card China Counterfeit assay cards are showing up everywhere. Reminder- The assay # on the rear of 1 ounce card is counterfeit if it begins with the letter A.[above-see pic.of 1 ounce bar A265730] Also if the wording security case on front of card is not uniformly, its counterfeit. i.e. the space between the letters u and r in security. Authentic Counterfeit Edited by Goldflake 07/03/2016 12:45 am Report this Post to the Staff
chevelle7167 Valued Member United States 89 Posts	Posted 07/03/2016 11:28 pm There is a seller on ebay right now with at least 3 of these 1 ounce fakes. I have emailed him to notify him. Is there anything else we can do to get these auctions pulled? Report this Post to the Staff
Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 07/04/2016 6:07 pm You must be talking about ebay Seller thughes83 331899792665 331899793312 331899794383 Obvious digital dotted serial # with letter "A" AXXXXXX Counterfeits from China. He has the 4th. covered up with a so-called APMEX sticker. I reported it. I have a personal email from Perth Mint stating they are fake. Report this Post to the Staff
chevelle7167 Valued Member United States 89 Posts	Posted 07/04/2016 8:03 pm Yes, that is the guy. I wasn't sure if I could post his user ID. I emailed him and he said that he bought them all off another guy on ebay last month and was flipping them. He didn't believe me when I told him that they were fakes and to do his due diligence before he sold them. If his story is true, and he was hoodwinked as well, then he may be a victim too. However, it did give me pause when I called him out on them, and he didn't pull the auctions. The right thing to do would be pull them, make 100% certain they are real, and then relist them Report this Post to the Staff
Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 07/04/2016 10:21 pm Problem is. Many, many buyers whether novice or professional are being fooled by Perth Mint Chinese fakes. Plus, the list goes on and on. Just to name a few, Pamp and Credit Suisse, Valcambi, Royal Canadian Mint[ RCM]. You name it. China has copied them almost exactly. This is only the beginning. Can you imagine how many fake gold bars are out there? Report this Post to the Staff
chevelle7167 Valued Member United States 89 Posts	Posted 07/04/2016 11:24 pm Hopefully this guy's auctions get pulled. I saw they were still active. If you have a direct email from the Perth Mint confirming this, then wow. I never really bought into the fact that these "certi cards" were not easily able to be copied. One reason, the only gold that I buy is US Mint gold, either eagles or commems, and then certified by NGC or PCGS. I realize they can be faked, but I think my best best is going that route. Very scary. I would never buy gold bars off of ebay, yet I see people buy them all the time. I guess the sellers of this fake gold think that if it is a certi card, the buyer will never take it out and get it tested. Almost a fool proof way to scam people. Report this Post to the Staff
Goldflake Pillar of the Community United States 697 Posts	Posted 07/05/2016 1:26 pm Hello. Here is the exact letter I got back from Perth Mint and I quote Quote: "The bars with the wording CertiCard Security Case on the front do not have a 'letter' in front of the bar number on the back.These cars [sic cards] have the letter A in front of the number. So definitely do not purchase." This was reply to nymoen20 item 141996641369 Report this Post to the Staff
chevelle7167 Valued Member United States 89 Posts	Posted 07/06/2016 7:01 pm Guys auctions still up. About to get paid 6 grand for garbage. Sad this happens Report this Post to the Staff
Puglife711 Valued Member 58 Posts	Posted 07/08/2016 7:54 pm In the future show Bobby in the counterfeit forum he gets things gone very quickly. Report this Post to the Staff
coppernicus New Member Australia 3 Posts	Posted 08/29/2016 06:19 am I'm new to stacking, but I've just stumbled across 4 newly listed gold bars, all starting at $0.99 with auction ending in 24 hours. If anyone has an eye for these things please have a look and potentially block the sale of fake bars http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/182260261017 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/182260261103 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/182260260921 Report this Post to the Staff
coppernicus New Member Australia 3 Posts	Posted 08/29/2016 07:00 am Kangaroos cutting into thin border Report this Post to the Staff
winston55 New Member United States 10 Posts	Posted 08/29/2016 9:33 pm The fakes will only get more and more abundant in the market!! Especially with prices moving higher.... Do these mints that use certicard even care? What are they doing to protect their brand and confidence in buying/!? I'm not sure anyone can shutdown the counterfeiters in China, but someone can at least make it harder to replicate these bars? We can assume gold will be continually be knocked off so why not make the package impossible to replicate? I didn't understand this concept until I bought these bars from scottsdale mint in certi-lock packaging: U8G815r31tI * Edited by Staff to add YouTube tags. [youtube][/youtube] Please use them in the future. We prefer embedded video. * Report this Post to the Staff
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