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Shall The Original Federal Mint Be Rebuilt ?

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It's always fascinating to see how Americans are somewhat obsessed with taxes and tax money, even in a thread like this. The best way to enrage an American is still to say that something he or she may not agree to has been done with tax money, like rebuilding a possible piece of your cultural heritage or so. ;) ;)

Anyway, when it comes to cents: the cost of producing them has been higher than their value for some time now, which would be a good reason to get rid of it. I can't pay anything with cents anymore nowadays anyway, which is why I, living overseas, am stuck with about 1000 or so of them now. Or even more, I haven't counted. Demonetizing money for that reason is something we're quite used to here in good ol' Yurop anyway. Just some years ago we in Norway got rid of the 50 Øre coin, worth about 8 US cent at the time, making the 1 Krone piece the smallest coin (12 US cents in the current exchange rate, 16 cent back then). The Øre is still very much alive in banking, though.
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If the cent and the dollar note was discontinued Just think of all that extra Money saved that the US government could Waste somewhere else
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... like rebuilding a possible piece of your cultural heritage or so.
Just to be clear, I draw a distinction between restoring an existing structure to its former glory and the building of a replica in its stead.

In the case of the Philadelphia Mint, I am fine with just having the plaque at the original location. Let the memory of the original mint building stand on its own, do not cheapen it with a replica.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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I recall reading Stewart donated the few planchets and coins found during demolition to the city of Philadelphia and was on display at Congress Hall for several decades. In 2008 someone said it was mothballed http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v11n28a09.html

If the Smithsonian can photograph/ digitize some its vast holdings, I don't see why the same can't be done with Stewart's donation and let collectors and the public be able to see it online.

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If the Smithsonian can photograph/ digitize some its vast holdings, I don't see why the same can't be done with Stewart's donation and let collectors and the public be able to see it online.
Now that is something I can support.
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I didn't even know there was such a place and now it's gone? They should have put the building up on ebay instead of tearing it down.
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They should have put the building up on ebay instead of tearing it down.
The tore it down between 1907 and 1911. Maybe they saved the rubbish. You can sell that instead.
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As it seems like a huge waste of tax dollars, it will probably happen soon.
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I recall reading Stewart donated the few planchets and coins found during demolition to the city of Philadelphia and was on display at Congress Hall for several decades.

If I remember correctly it was later loaned to the Mint for a display and then kind of "disappeared". It may be in the hands of the Mint or it may have been turned over to the Smithsonian

OK did some checking, part of Stewart's donation is on exhibition at the US Mint in Philadelphia, some of it is in storage in the basement of the First National Bank building in Philadelphia, and unfortunately some of it has gone missing over the years. The collection is owned by the City of Philadelphia, and is on permanent loan to the Independence Hall National Park. The artifacts and the two paintings Ye Old Mint, and Washington Inspecting the First Coins are on long term loan to the Bureau of the Mint from the Independence Hall National Park. Pictures of many of the coins and some of the Artifacts can be seen in the book "The Secret History of the First US Mint" by Joel Orosz and Leonard Augsburger

As Stewart donated it on the terms that it be kept togeterh and to be on permanent display, maybe his heirs should request it's return since the terms of the bequest are not being honored.
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Just to be clear, I draw a distinction between restoring an existing structure to its former glory and the building of a replica in its stead.


I think that's also a distinction between Americans and Europeans. Here in Europe we're pretty used to building up stuff and rebuilding it after some war or so completely blew it to pieces. It's not uncommon to see a sign at a church or so stating that it's the 9th iteration of it, after it got ruined by a fire twice or trice, converted to stables by Napoleon, bombed to pieces by the Nazi's and the rest of the building by the Allies, and had some issues with Iconoclastic Fury and other alien influences in between. We just rebuild it and call it a piece of history anyway. :)
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UltraRant: Not all Americans are such a "stick in the mud". I personally find such people to be obnoxious. There is a growing trend now where people like to get all "pitch fork-y" over controversial issues and topics without actually understanding what they are up in arms about. I am quite proud to be an American and I am quite proud of our culture and history. It makes me sick to think that the rest of world thinks we are a joke. I hate that we get misrepresented by the ignorance that plagues our society.
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It's not uncommon to see a sign at a church or so stating that it's the 9th iteration of it... We just rebuild it and call it a piece of history anyway. :)
I understand that, but did they erect completely different (and much larger) structures to stand in those spots for over a hundred years before tearing them down to rebuild the originals?

By the way, if these are stave churches then I can understand the desire to keep rebuilding them. I have always liked them, probably because like to spend time here.
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