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Possible Fake RCM Medallions?

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 Posted 05/20/2016  5:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would someone please take a look at ebay seller "ecoins" selling Royal Canadian Mint medallions. On the photo of the authenticity card in some of the photos, it mentions the medallions were supposedly made by RCM for the Merrick Mint. Maybe legitimate but appears quite unusual, not to mention the items are junky. If fakes, I suppose under the guise of medallions they're not counterfeit but if they're not RCM products, I'd think they'd still be illegal to sell. (In my opinion, noticing other items as well, this seller appears to be a made-in-China trash peddler.)

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/m.html?_odkw...int&_sacat=0
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 Posted 05/20/2016  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found the same 'Justin Trudeau' coins on the Merrick Mint's website: http://www.merrickmint.com/justin-t...oin-set.html

I'm thinking that despite the information "Manufactured by the Royal Canadian Mint" and colorizing technique perfected by the Mirrick Mint - might be a problem, as the RCM would have spelled Colour, not color
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Dcadon, good eye, the spelling. I also noticed the Obama coin with Canada, Canada, Canada.., on the other side as well. Weird. And yes the Trudeau coin. If RCM supplies Merrick Mint with blank medallions "insert sticker here" .....just seems odd their name would appear on an COA, misspelled (and I didn't notice their logo).
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 Posted 05/20/2016  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have no problem believing the mint made the medallions, it is just another money avenue.
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The Merrick Mint is a US-based company. They created the COA (vs. the RCM) as they do for nearly all the pieces they "enhance." They use the US spelling for "colorized" on all their COAs for such pieces.

Everything is legit here - they are colorizing medals struck by the RCM.




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Ah so the Merrick Mint does not actually mint medallions. They "enhance". That RCM, a Canadian Crown Corp, sells blanks with "Canada, Canada, Canada...."....yes, yet another money avenue but rather unbecoming in the thirst for profit in my opinion. If RCM wanted their name associated with Canadian medallions, why not slap the stickers on themselves and be done with it?
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If RCM wanted their name associated with Canadian medallions, why not slap the stickers on themselves and be done with it?


That was my thought, especially with the manhandler's image. Jean Chretien, and his Shawinigan Handshake, would be proud.
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I have purchased a few of these in the past as curios. Judging by the design, the RCM blanks appear to have been made around ~2010, with the wreath of maple leaves and repetition of the word CANADA. The design is similar to the RCM visitor token and salesman samples of that vintage. The Merrick Mint must have ordered a pile of these back in the day & is still using them 6 years later.

On the other side of the coin there is a small maple leaf minted at the top - covered with paint.

I've been meaning to ask the company if they have a couple blanks (without paint) for sale - as a collector of RCM tokens, the unpainted medals would be much more interesting than any of the painted versions.
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Or just ask the RCM
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The Merrick Mint must have ordered a pile of these back in the day & is still using them 6 years later.


Or they may be able to have then minted any time if they order enough at once, likely a min amount the RCM has set for "medallions" its not like they are coins, The RCM can make any amount of tokens/medallions for anyone at any time if there is a profit in it for the RCM that is.
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