Second one was tough due to the wear but I think this may be it:
Henry II Short Cross Penny
(1180-1189) Spink 1344, Class 1b2, Mass 421
Rev: +RAVL.ON.NORh - Moneyer Raul at Northampton Mint
See: http://hallshammeredcoins.com/websi..._HHC3312.jpg
For a comparison of the reverses, here is yours with two other Henry II's:

Henry II Short Cross Penny
(1180-1189) Spink 1344, Class 1b2, Mass 421
Rev: +RAVL.ON.NORh - Moneyer Raul at Northampton Mint
See: http://hallshammeredcoins.com/websi..._HHC3312.jpg
For a comparison of the reverses, here is yours with two other Henry II's:






















