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X2 New Buy's British Windies

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I won some coins at auction which I'm chuffed with.

First up the British Honduras 6S 1d:
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Dominica 1 1/2d (Moco) which is the plug from a holed Spanish (American) 8 Reales.
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 Posted 06/08/2016  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm actually somewhat intrigued by the defect in the "N" in "IND" of the counterstmped 8R, and also by the apparent disruption to the field above the left side of the crown.

Raw specimens of this nature are in general worrisome. What appearance does the edge present? You'd also be well advised to get an accurate weight, determine a specific gravity, and maybe even procure an analysis via XRF.

Had to get out my (American) dictionary to see what being "chuffed" was....

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 Posted 06/08/2016  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mark240590 I too would be "chuffed" with the purchase of the Dominica plug - the die is an exact match for one of the known (believed to be genuine) dies. Well worn but a great example.

Regarding the British Honduran coin I have some reservations regarding the host, which are the same as Lucky Cuss. The good news is that the stamp is not an exact match to any stamp I classify as a modern counterfeit variety. It is in fact VERY similar to a stamp considered to be genuine. It may actually be identical to that punch (I initially thought it was) but wear makes it impossible to say it is better than a 90% match. The host coin may be a counterfeit of the era which would be GOOD news, so I would rule that possibility out. There are a dozen or more examples of contemporary counterfeit 8rs overstruck with Honduran stamps of this type.

Do the SG and if the coin is 10.3 I would treat it as genuine. The die damage is confined largely to the reverse die and may be due to over use. It appears to be a terminal state die.
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Thanks very much, I did buy both from a fairly reputable auction house so wouldn't expect a fake to make its way through (I'm not saying it doesn't happen)

They still haven't arrived yet but I would expect them by the weekend or at least by early next week depending on when they get time to package and send them !

I've just picked up this bank of Ireland 6 shillings at another auction house (DNW) which I'm over the moon to eventually have since I've tracked one for such a long time. I missed out on the only example with the other two coins and won this one for less than that sold for so can't grumble :D

(Pics aren't working right now. It says the site is too busy )

I will get back to you guys in this thread when I get them all weighed and do the necessary tests :)

P.S
I love how we speak the same language yet it's almost completely different. If I typed as I spoke you wouldn't be able to understand a word a was gan on aboot.
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Atlast, here are the pictures of the bank of Ireland six shillings.

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Have not had the chance to do the Specific gravity yet but here's the weight. Nothing looks too untoward about it.

EDIT: SG is exactly 10.3g :)

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That weight and specific gravity would seem to pretty definitively authenticate your specimen. Your "fairly reputable auction house" would seem to have earned your continued patronage.

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Yeah, I will Definately use them again although the prices seem to be getting higher recently the more reputable it gets. I've noticed they're getting a lot of higher quality coins in too (dream coinage like £10,000 +)
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