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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When I saw this question, my first thought was the 1944 counterfeit nickel...
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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Norway
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@Parklane: you go through the red channel on arrival in the country for 'goods to declare' and tell the customs officer. Depending on the country of arrival and departure, you may already have to fill out a form during transport there (I've filled out hundreds of different forms on my international flights), independent of what you bring and who you are. If you have anything to declare, like more than $10.000, then there'll be some more paperwork and, depending on who and where you are, you may have to answer a few questions. Mainly why you bring it in cash and what you intend to do with it. And unless you state that you're going to invest in terrorism, drugs, or anything harmful and illegal, you'll be walking out of there with your money. Anyway, on international travel you always have to bring an ID and yes, you have to show it there as well.
A lot of countries have customs officers and border patrol, even in the 'nothing to declare' channel and they usually take random samples to double check if you really have nothing to declare (here in Norway it's mainly to check that you don't import a drop more alcohol than allowed). It's usual that they then first scan your luggage and jacket in an x-ray and ask additional questions on items they find (if any), your reason to visit the country, personal stuff, etc. In case they find over $10.000, they will have to assume they you're not doing anything legal with it, as you failed to declare it, and then it'll be confiscated and you end up with some huge legal issues.
The funny part is that, if you have over $10.000 on your bank account and pay with a card for anything when abroad, you will most likely get your sales tax returned on departure and no one will ask a question. That's because your international transaction is transparent, while a large cash transaction isn't.
Traveling is very much fun, but this is just an annoying 'necessity'.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I wonder how well enforced those are? They aren't. I bought a hoard of around 1000 Ancient Chinese coins (pre 918 AD) from a seller in China. They got to my doorstep just fine. To be honest, this was before I knew about the law. I haven't done that since.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: WOW! That is a big list of things that ya cant keep!  However, as already pointed out just who is doing anything about some of these laws? Glad I only collect US coins. I'd be up all night trying to figure out what I can or can't collect if some of those above mentioned things were mine.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Any amount of cash over $10,000 on your person.
You do not have the freedom to carry your money. Not true. The bank messages the government if an INSTITUTION withdraws more tan $10,000 in cash, as this is an anti money laundering law. Your money cannot be taken from you by the government. Even if it is over $10,000. I will admit, however, that I do live in nebraska were we recently abolished civil forfeiture.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Any amount of cash over $10,000 on your person. This also applies to individuals. If the police pull you over, they can seize anything over $10,000 if they suspect you of money laundering.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: they can seize anything over $10,000 if they suspect you of money laundering. Nebraska abolished civil forfeiture. You need to be convicted with a crime in order for your property to be taken.
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
UltraRant posted: Quote: ...then there'll be some more paperwork and, depending on who and where you are, you may have to answer a few questions. Isn't that the most precious rigamarole? Taking large amounts of money anywhere is not my forte'. 
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
1358 Posts |
Quote: Isn't that the most precious rigamarole? Just as much as that I have to fill out six pages stating that I am not a terrorist when applying for a US visa. Seriously, I seriously doubt if anyone ever will admit in the face of an authority that they intend to be a terrorist or that they're going to use their money for terrorist purposes and I seriously doubt the US will state that they have a better case of suing such a person for false statements if he's blown himself to pieces already. As said, traveling is fun, but all the bureaucratic bull around it is just frustratingly annoying.
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1119 Posts |
remind me never to go to Norway
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
1358 Posts |
Quote: remind me never to go to Norway Or Denmark, I guess? Anyway, why? Are you planning to take 125 kg in (counterfeit) Norwegian coins with you? Are you not willing to declare it to customs if you bring more than $10.000 in cash? You walk out with all your money if you just declare it, every single cent of it... Anyway, I've been treated more harsh when trying to get into the US and Canada. And then I didn't even bring more than $100 in currency or anything worth declaring... The last time was when the shooting happened in Ottawa, which was 2014. I happened to be on the plane to Toronto from Copenhagen when that happened and was fully unaware of the whole event, so when I was asked for my final destination in Canada and said 'Ottawa', I was sent to a different line behind some doors, where I was instantly put into a small office where I've been captive for a few hours and was treated like a criminal: I had to deliver my passport and cell phone and wallet. After a few hours and two interrogations they just stamped my passport and released me as if nothing happened. So, shall I now avoid North-America and state that you have a fascist regime there?
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
I know of numerous instances where people, traveling interstate intending to make a large $ purchase, lost from $12 - 25,000.
Guess the legal cost of trying to get forfeiture monies back.
Twenty or so years ago there was a case on the California Coast where the local law enforcement, citing the 'word' of a squirrely informant, raided the house of a multi-millionaire health-nut on a fishing expedition. They shot him dead for having a flashlight in hand. Nothing was found.
The forfeiture laws have been perverted from their original intentions, I am sorry to report. They are an actively pursued revenue source by and for law enforcement.
Pass a law that the ACLU or Eco-freaks get the forfeitures and/or any proceeds and all this cop carp would evaporate.
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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Quote: Twenty or so years ago there was a case on the California Coast where the local law enforcement, citing the 'word' of a squirrely informant, raided the house of a multi-millionaire health-nut on a fishing expedition. They shot him dead for having a flashlight in hand. Nothing was found. Compared to that, I've actually been treated nicely by Canadian border police. 
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