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US Navy Buffalo Nickel... Thoughts? WW2? Edit - Better Pics!

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Just picked this up at my LCC auction night for only $12. Seller said he bought it 20+ years ago in Georgia of all places. Looks worn, no visible date so it looks like an original WW2 era piece... What do you think? I'm in the car on my way home so I can't post better pics for a little while.

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 Posted 06/18/2016  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice Buffalo nickel! I think you made a good deal!
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It's what they call a hobo nickel. Supposedly back during the depression hobos would take a nickel and carve on it with a nail or file or whatever they had handy and turn it into something they could trade for a hot meal or some booze. Since then it's become a quirky art form, often involving sophisticated expensive equipment for carving and engraving on nickels and other coins. Some of the results are pretty wild. Here are some examples I found online.


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Here are a couple more:


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I've got to add this one. Anyone who's into ancient coins will find it a ... HOOT!



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ChildOfTheWheat,
It is a so called hobo nickel. I have always wondered how one can tell if it was made yesterday or 50+ years ago?
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Hobo Nickels aren't cheap to buy . Some run into hundreds of dollars. you did very well for $12 .
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Well Done, Youngling! Once a carving of Yoda did I see. The Force makes it clear this was a more recent carving, not of the Hobos.
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Cool nickel! Are hobo nickels considered a real type of coin? Like would NGC or PCGS grade it as hobo nickel, or heavily damaged?
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would NGC or PCGS grade it as hobo nickel, or heavily damaged?


I think it depends on if the design was made by a artist that made a bunch of coins or some random sailor that made one. Not to sure, though.
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Modern Hobo nickel.

Original depression era ones sell for $100 or more.

Modern ones are anywhere from a few bucks to several hundred for the fancy ones on ebay.

How do I know this one is modern?

The coin has wheel marks from a coin counting machine on the reverse.
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 Posted 06/18/2016  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Huh, interesting Jack...

Are you sure this one is modern? I mean, coins DO enter circulation after being in a collection after all...
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Are you sure this one is modern? I mean, coins DO enter circulation after being in a collection after all...


Aside from the roller mark if you look at the lines the appear to have been made by a vibrating blade or point based on the incremental marks as you follow the lines.

Another giveaway is a lot of the originals were stamped using small chisels or punches and the reverse should show flattening like counterstamped coins.

I bought mine in 1989 or so and thought it was an original especially given the 1919 date and the amount of wear which would be consistent with depression era but I showed it to Joe P. (Badgermint on the forum) at one of our clubs meetings and he said it looked like it was made only a year ago until I told him I bought it almost 30 years ago then he said it looked like the work of someone who's name I don't remember but was made using some sore of tool again I don't remember the name. Maybe he will chime in if he sees this.

While mine looks like the same curved shaped chisel was used there is not deformation to the reverse indicating the use of a hammer and chisel.

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I'm not sure anyone can truly tell either way. I'd lean towards not knowing until specialists can handle it and make the call.
nice pick up for the money and good story regardless.
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