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1957 D LWC. Is This PMD?

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 Posted 06/19/2016  02:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Pulled this out of my childhood piggy bank and gave it a look through my loupe.

What is going on with the "Liberty" on the obverse?

The lower part of the "B" is filled in. The cross bar on the "T" looks like it was cut short on the right side.

The shorten lower bar on the "L" does look like PMD, not sure about the other marks I mentioned though.

1957-D-LWC.-Is-This-PMD?

1957-D-LWC.-Is-This-PMD?

1957-D-LWC.-Is-This-PMD?

Is this PMD or something else?

Thanks...Mont

Edit: After looking at pic again I went back and looked at coin. The line extending from top of "L" extending diagonally left towards rim does appear to be raised. My eyes cant tell if it is debris or metal as it is shadowed by rim.

Didn't notice line in pic until after I made post.
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 Posted 06/19/2016  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rainman503 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was actually going to comment on the L, because I saw that too.
Die crack causing the raised line to the L.
The B filled in Liberty is cause by a die chip, there was actually a lot in the 50s. They are still cool to find. Another big one in the 50s is the "BIE" which is a die chip that causes and extra piece in the shape of an "I" in between the B and E in Liberty.
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You could try to match it on Cuds on coins.com it would be a LBD4
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The incuse marks on the surface are circulation damage. On LIBERTY you see a lot of circulation flattening on those devices. On the 'B' in Liberty you are seeing the bottom of the 'B' as filed. This is not a grease issue. The post that forms the center of the 'B' has broken off the die and now just leaves the void filled on the coin.
1957-D-LWC.-Is-This-PMD?
1957-D-LWC.-Is-This-PMD?
The post gives definition of the centers of the various letters. 'B, O, 6, 8, 9, 0, ETC. This is also the result of extreme die wear. Thus we see various dies of the 1950's wheat cents showing a lot of issues because the mint continued to use the dies way past normal retirement. We see the heavy die wear, die cracks, chips, breaks, Retained Cuds and finally a Cud that forces retirement of the die.
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Thanks for the info. Kind of what I was thinking might be going on with the "B". Thanks for confirming it.


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You could try to match it on Cuds on coins.com it would be a LBD4


I did try to look it up. Close as I could get was LDB4-1957D-024.

My coin has 2 very faint die cracks that aren't shown and doesn't have the die chips on the reverse.

As far as I can see LDB4-1957D-024 is the only one listed with the "B" like mine and a clean "E" like mine.
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