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If They Stopped Minting Bullion Coins...

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Do you think they would be worth more or less? Like say they stopped minting silver eagles or Perth Mint stopped minting lunar coins or koalas. Would collectors not be as I treated in them causing their value to fall compared to when they were still making the series. I think of decommissioned USA coins like 1/2 cent coins, 2 cent coins, 3 cent coins and 20 cent coins and they seem to be the least popular amongst collectors with coins still be used in dominations that still exist and designs most popular like penny, nickel dime quarter etc. Just wondering if they end the series some think it would still be colpected because protected by being a coin instead of a mint and legal tender, but no fool would sell bullion coins for the value printed on them so its "legal tender" but no body would really use it as such so is it really protected as being collectable if the series dies because it's "legal tender" because it's government minted but it's not really tender practically
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I think of decommissioned USA coins like 1/2 cent coins, 2 cent coins, 3 cent coins and 20 cent coins and they seem to be the least popular amongst collectors with coins still be used in dominations

I do not think that is a correct assessment. I am curious to hear if others agree.
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First, the mentioned decommissioned coins are still very collectible, if you can find them they command high prices. Second, humans are greedy creatures and have been killing for silver and gold for all of written history. If the minting stopped, the collecting would go on among current collectors and the new ones that discover bullion every day. IMHO.
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Mints around the World won't stop making bullion coins by weight, and NCLT bullion coins, so long as there is a big profit in it.


The Perth Mint exists only for
a) the purpose of producing bullion coins, and
b) as a gold refiner and bullion producer.
And they are very good at it.

The last coin they produced for circulation was way back in 1964. They were bronze Pennies and Halfpennies. These coins are distinguished with a dot after PENNY or HALFPENNY

The last silver coin produced for circulation was the Shilling of 1946, and that was almost a 'one off' batch of 1.31 million of them. (I have an example, with a dot before SHILLING)
That was the only silver coin ever struck by the Perth Mint for circulation.

The last gold coin that they produced for legal 'circulation' was before the First World War.
They continued striking Half Sovereigns up to 1918, and Sovereigns up until 1931 for International payment in bullion gold, then Australia came off the Gold Standard in 1932.

Modern Perth Mint products are collected as bullion coins, mainly by specialist bullion coin collectors.
I have one example only: a non proof Platinum Koala, of 1991.

I am not a specialist bullion collector, although I have probably a total of kilo or so of World junk circulation silver, and a few World NCLT silver crown sized coins.

Come to think of it, a huge excess of U.S. silver dollars were struck, that were never intended for circulation.
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Basically a simple train of thought: if everyone would stop making bullion coins, then there's probably no market for it anymore. If there's no market anymore for it, then both numismatics must be near dead and precious metal must have crashed. So that's a very unlikely scenario. For most people, bullion coins are both a nice way to collect bullion and to collect coins at the same time (or just one of them), so they please two markets. Which is a brilliant strategy in itself.

Now, say that something happened and bullion coins won't be produced anymore. For example because World War III is going on and governments suddenly need a gold reserve again (right, Canada?). In that case, and if none of the conditions about the bullion market and numismatics have been met, the price of those coins will go up, as they're suddenly getting scarce and still are serving two markets (which was the brilliant part about bullion coins). If regular coins and bullion bars are still produced, though, then I guess their price will still go up a bit due to these bullion coins becoming rarities, but at least the bullion and numismatic market still have fresh input, be it that the markets get separated a bit.

At least, that's my prediction. Hope we never find out if it's true!

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