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1776 Machin Mills Coin - Is It Real?

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 Posted 06/26/2016  12:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amurguia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello!

I just purchased this coin. Is it authentic? I believe it is, but hard to tell. If there are any pros out there who can help it would be greatly appreciated. I'm new to the collecting game!

Thank you!

1776-Machin-Mills-Coin---Is-It-Real?

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 Posted 06/26/2016  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Vlack 76-A, if it is a fake it is a good one. Looks real to me.
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 Posted 06/26/2016  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amurguia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! It wasn't rated by anyone so some extra validation is appreciated.
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 Posted 06/26/2016  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amurguia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So with a coin like this, I'm assuming it was created and back-dated to 1776 by Machin Mills?
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 Posted 06/26/2016  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I compared it to the 1776 Machin Mills on the PCGS price guide, and several pick up points match. Yeah, it looks real to me also.
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So with a coin like this, I'm assuming it was created and back-dated to 1776 by Machin Mills?


No, actually amurguia was asking if he had a counterfeit of a counterfeit. Machin Mills was a New York state minter that produced both genuine and counterfeit coins in the 1780s. Their "after hours work" is of great interest to those who specialize in coins of this era.

There is no way that this coin was minted in 1776. It was struck later.
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 Posted 06/26/2016  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amurguia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct on both count's. I wanted the authentic counterfeit MM coin :)
Then, because Machin Mills started 1787 assumed they softened the die and back-dated to 1776.
All fun history.
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 Posted 06/26/2016  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the CCF, Amurguia. Cool piece, with a historic date, even if it is a genuine counterfeit!
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Thank you!
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I had never heard of Machin Mills, that's a pretty interesting piece of history.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ora...e_(New_York)

Since Machins Mill is literally in my backyard....I live 5 mins away. I have seen genuine examples from a local dealer who is a kinda expert on it. TPG is highly recommended.
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