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Pillar of the Community
United States
819 Posts |
I have been following a $20 St.Gauden's double eagle that was listed as AU with bold capital letters saying "NO RESERVE!" It ended with 24 bids at $1350. besides the ended auction on my ebay watch list it states the seller has relisted the item. Went to the relisting and it is the exact same coin with "no reserve" again specified. How can this be? If there were no reserve it should have sold for $1350...notice feedback profile is at 99% point something. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3121 Posts |
Unless he was shill bidding it himself and it didn't reach the amount he wanted. Based on ebay rules he shouldn't be doing this. Only a guess however.. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1695 Posts |
Perhaps the high bidder did not pay, so it was relisted.
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Forum Dad
 United States
24154 Posts |
Might not be so sinister. Sometimes buyers back out, it happens.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
 Good spadework. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
819 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3121 Posts |
definitely being shill bidded.. The winning bidder (e***n) of the previous auction for the same coin is again bidding on this one. Exact same coin exact same shill bidder....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
819 Posts |
should anything be done about this? report to ebay" or just mind my own affairs and let ebay police themselves? |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21601 Posts |
ebay does not police themselves anymore. It is up to other bidders to report sellers who list counterfeit coins or shillbidders to them. Personally I dislike shillbidders more than those who sell counterfeit coins because they know what they are doing whereas fake coin sellers often do not. I have reported shillbidders in the past with good results and suggest you do the same with this seller.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3733 Posts |
i don't think you can report shill bidding, I think they have software that does that internally.. but I would like to know for sure.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21601 Posts |
silverwolf-
"For sure" you can report shillbidders.
I have done so on numerous occasions in the past.
Sometimes it takes more than one report or more
than one person, but it can be done.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
819 Posts |
notified ebay (after about 30 minutes of trying to find how) ebay's reporting system sucks! wasn't able to enter specifics, just able to check boxes that were somewhat accurate to the complaint, most of the "report" links didn't work or ended up on the "yellow brick road" , seems like they ( ebay) doesn't want to get complaints, you have to persevere to make it through so then they take it more seriously if you expend that much effort (maybe). |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4589 Posts |
Quote:seems like they ( ebay) doesn't want to get complaints Yup Quote:
then they take it more seriously if you expend that much effort (maybe). Nope ebay makes money off listings and sales. Since you aren't paying the fees, you are the product. The don't give a rat's fuzzy posterior about you, nor about the sellers. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
I understand your frustration. Trying to personalize a corporation is a difficult task because they are entities void of personalities or feelings. The business world can be cold and harsh but we don't have to take it personally.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
1533 Posts |
If a shill bidder buys it, the seller will still have to pay the final value fee, unless the shill backs out. How many backouts can a shill account have before it is banned? Not sure I get how this shilling is supposed to work for anybody.
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Posted 06/29/2016 11:50 am
