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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Was wondering this for a long time but never came to ask it.
Using an example VF condition, if the Obv was a 20 & the Rev was a 30 what would be the final grade and if the condition of the two sides were reversed, would the grade generally be the same assuming that no other factors come into it on either side like rim dings, nicks, etc...?
Is there a preference with pro coin graders or the community in general with regards to the obv/rev and the determining grade..?
Thanks.
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too many factors, without writing a book, certain graders certainly prefer one side to the other,,usually it is the obverse side, it has bigger fields and is more prone to hits, and slight wear..the reverse is usually less graded as it is more filled with designs, and less prone to damage..long story short.. a strong obverse will out grade a weak reverse any day of the week..but as with any grader this is all subject to personal opinion..
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok, was thinking it tends to be like you said. You can even see this on ebay with sellers as the almost always put they're best foot (side) forward but more often it's the Obv. that's accentuated. I did notice that the weaker one will have smaller or fuzzier photos as well or maybe that's just my imagination...but it does seem to be that way a lot. |
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i also sell on ebay and I always put the reverse side first on photos, because it shos the date, but for no other reason for me personally, |
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Obverse, it's has the highest point on the coin, and usually has the most wear.
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I think searching for CDN 50 Cent pieces is the hardest for that reason. Most of the higher grade to UNC all have nice reverses, at least from far. But when I go to the listing to see photos of the Obv... it seems like what you say Silverwolf is true about the Obv. being more prone to wear & hits. But I've learned to save some time when looking at the Rev on these because when I see wear (flats) on the thighs of the Lion & Unicorn. To me this is a dead givaway and I don't think I've ever see a really nice Obv. (UNC) when the Rev. is worn in that place.
Edited by TaeKenDo
07/02/2016 10:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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As I understand it, PCGS assigns the grade to the lowest graded side, whatever that side that may be.
I disagree with this policy; IMO, each graded side should be noted, if those grades differ.
That is what I am used to, when I buy coins available a major World recognised public auction, that I regularly attend.
Public auction lot descriptions are usually far more detailed, than what is noted on a slab, especially for the more valuable lots.
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More detailed, really? ok. I guess is a coin is really damaged on one side and the other was proof, that would get a little strange with the grading if they were cut it between the two with a grade somewhere in the middle. That would be how many would see it I think if they started grading XF & UNC on the same coin.
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Valued Member
Canada
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The way I've seen people grade over a few years is focussed on the obverse, but if the reverse is SIGNIFICANTLY lower or higher, can shift the grade a half of full grade. Depending on how significant.
Eg. VF obverse with G reverse might end up a VG
Or EF obverse with high AU reverse might end up a AU (of course luster must be taken into account ...)
Mismatched wear reverse and obverse are very rare, especially way off between grades.
Edited by GregJG
07/03/2016 12:32 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Although it may be relatively common for a coin to be a full grade difference one side to another,
it is much more unusual to have two or more two full grade differences one side to another.
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Posted 07/02/2016 9:46 pm
