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 Posted 02/27/2008  8:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So, I bought my first greek coin on the weekend - this one's a tiny silver coin from Apolonia Pontika.
Obverse is a humane (?) version of the Gorgon and the reverse (what I assume is that) depicts the upside-down anchor as greeks would have pictured it hanging on its hook on board a fishing vessel, the crayfish and the letter Alpha, which is the mintmark. Anyone who can further explicate this coin would be very welcome to.

The first thing that struck me when I received this coin was the small size of the piece, as is illustrated by the last pic.
Is this real?

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02/27/2008 8:55 pm
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 Posted 02/28/2008  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, seems maybe I placed this in the wrong forum?

Oh yes, this is a coin type that has often been faked...
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 Posted 02/28/2008  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a diobol (or 1/3 drachm).

No, it's in the right forum, but yes, it is from a notorious "fake spot". It doesn't really look like the genuine ones on CoinArchives, but it doesn't really look like the fakes in the FORVM fake database either. Wildwinds doesn't list very many, rather it notes that fakes are numerous and posts a link to another site where the fakes are discussed.

The reverse does appear to be "back to front" - the "A is normally to the left, the crayfish to the right, and the official's initials (when present) are on the left side. I can't find any examples with the letters "PA" off to one side like yours has. The wide reverse rim seems to be atypical, as well.

I'm not qualified to comment on the authenticity of this particular piece; right now, I'm steering well clear of Thracian silver because of the proliferation of fakes.
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 Posted 02/28/2008  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again - looks like I will be joining one of the ancient forums to find out...
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The outlook is pretty grim, with all at ancients.info telling me it is a bad fake.
It seems to me also rather strange that as you pointed out (Sap) the "A" is on the right
hand side of the upturned anchor as on almost all the others it is on the left. Also, the crayfish has taken some 'stick' as it looks too basic..
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