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Coins Information Required | Lightweight Bactrian Tets

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 Posted 02/29/2008  06:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Starlet_GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Dears,

I have some coins which are original ancient but I am not sure which age they are blongs to, could you give me any information regarding my coins? further I need to know the worth for my coins.

Thanks in advance

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 Posted 02/29/2008  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starlet_GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some body told me that these coins belongs to 176 BC ... is it correct?
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A clearer picture or scan would help confirm this, but simply judging by the "pith helmet" style hedgear, it looks like it's from the far eastern Greek kingdom of Bactria.

Certainly coins looking much like that were around at around that time. Here's a very similar looking tiny silver obol from King Eukratides I of Bactria, who ruled c. 171-145 BC (taken from the Wildwinds page for this ruler:
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A measurement of the size, and if possible the weight, would also help confirm an identity.

Edit: Whups. Just noticed I said "AD" when I meant "BC". Post corrected.
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 Posted 02/29/2008  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to tell from the picture, but I agree with SAP. Can't tell if it's real or a copy though.
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Thanks SAP, I will try to measure the coins weight and diameter and inform you ... the coins you posted looks much same like I got but on the head of coin some thing is written in roman style language ... and on the above nothing is written ... I will gather more information and get back to you ...

Once again thanks a lot...
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I have taken new pics ... please see and analyise ... Thanks in advance

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I had searched over net and find some similar coins ... please help it this is the same?



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Yep, looks like a match to me.
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 Posted 03/05/2008  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starlet_GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear SAP,

How to check if they are real? and what do you think how much they worth, I got eleven coins.

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The same design was used on tetradrachms and drachms, so their value will depend on denomination, which will be determined by the size and weight. Weight will also be good to help determine if they're authentic.

The obverse of the new pics seems a bit fuzzy. It could just be a fuzzy picture, but if the coin itself looks "fuzzy" or grainy, that could indicate a cast fake. Another quick way to check for casts is the edge; if you see a "seam" or line running all the way around the coin, it's definitely a cast fake. Absence of a seam is not proof of authenticity, though - the better quality fakes are seamless.

The relief of the obverse looks low and flat in that picture, too - more so than the original pictures. Are they pictures of the same coin, or different coins?

According to my Sear catalogue, real drachms are worth £80, tetradrachms are £375. Please note that these prices are for coins in VF condition, and if it's genuine, the one in the second pics is a lot more worn than VF. Yours would be maybe half to a third of that value.

I don't know if you were planning to sell them, but these coins are probably more common in Pakistan than elsewhere; they'd be worth more in the West. However, I understand Pakistan has laws against exporting ancient objects (including coins). You might want to double-check that before you try to sell them overseas.
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Thank you for providing for very fruitful information. I just measured two coins and it weight between 8.150 to 8.460 Grams. And the diameter is 28.9mm. width is 5mm. The condition of coins are vague. Actually I like to sell these coins away, could you please tell me where do I find the buyer?

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Dear Sap,

I have scaned these coins, please take a closer look as far as the reality is concern.

regards,
MIZ

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 Posted 03/06/2008  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly, with the figures you've given us, things aren't looking too good for these coins.

At that diameter (29 mm) they're definitely supposed to be tetradrachms, but a tetradrachm of Eukratides is supposed to be twice the weight you've given - "about 16.8 grams" is what the book says they should weigh.

Later tetradrachms weighed less, only 9.7 grams, but by then the designs had changed, and the two figures on horseback were no longer used. Even for these, a weight of just over 8 grams would be a little too low. I'd have to conclude that these are copies.

Sorry.
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