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What Is This 1744 Copper Coin?

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 Posted 07/12/2016  1:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cero to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello
I need to identify this coin, can someone help me?
I think it is from Ragusa. Reverse looks like silver tallero, but the coin is made from copper, coin diameter is 21.5mm. I'm confused, is it possible that the coin is fake?

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 Posted 07/12/2016  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the inscription, it's supposed to be a 1-1/2 ducat?
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 Posted 07/12/2016  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tallero is same as ducat, but should be bigger and made from silver.
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 Posted 07/12/2016  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@cero, I agree that a tallero (also known as ducat et sem) should be silver and this coin isn't. There are multiple stylistic differences between your coin and the real thing. For example, the letter A in the obv legend is oddly shaped on your coin and I don't think that it should be. Also, the rector's hair is wrong on your coin (it only has two rows of curls, whereas on a tallero there are three). Either, you have a fake or a real coin that I can't find any other example of...

Where did you get this? Do you have any confidence in the seller?
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 Posted 07/12/2016  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And welcome to CCF!
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 Posted 07/13/2016  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I inherited a collection of old coins and this coin is in it, I'm not sure where this coin came from. Thanx for your answers
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 Posted 10/16/2016  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add minga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Cero,

this is a very interesting coin indeed.

Do you know when the coin entered the collection you inherited?

Are there any traces of silver on the surface?
If so, it might be a contemporary imitation.
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