The top one is a copy of a Spanish "Reyes Catolicos" (Catholic Kings) silver coin. Likely of a 2 reales, the most commonly seen denomination for such copies. I see what appears to be remnants of a silver wash in some spots, so it may very well be an old contemporary forgery rather than a modern copy.
Thanks for the help with the top coin I assumed it was nothing spectacular, however the bottom coin is deiinatly silver so if anyone could help identify it I would be much obliged.
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