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Just wanted some expert opinions about this coins authenticity. I'm much more familiar with denarii but since Caligula is pricey for a nice example I thought I'd pick up a cheaper bronze for now.

Does that "gunk" on the coin look like it was done recently?

11.57g, 27mm

Any and all info is greatly appreciated, Thanks CCF!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/As-CALIGULA...AOSwZVlXiL1Y
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 Posted 07/30/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks fine to me though a bit off center on the reverse.
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 Posted 07/30/2016  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This seller has a very beautiful legionary counterstamp "head of eagle" over a coin from "Caesar Augusta" (actually Zaragoza in Spain)
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 Posted 07/31/2016  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is an excellent Caligula !
Based on current low summer prices I feel it is an absolute steel at $100 (US) a great pick up at $150 and still reasonable at $200 !

It should clean up nicely
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 Posted 07/31/2016  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way this is a Hispania issue
The mints in Spain began switching over to Imperial coinage at this time and ended local coins by the reign of Claudius.

Around two years ago a member here purchased a similar one (better though) at my prodding. He was a new collector and hesitant to spend the required amount (over $300) but I assured him it was the type of purchase he would not regret. Besides I liked it so much I gave him my personal assurance that I would take it if he changed his mind. Of course he never did !

If you can get this for under $150 (US) I will give you the same offer !
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 Posted 07/31/2016  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This seller is a spanish seller who sells coins found in Spain so it´s not strange to find local issues alt his ebay shop...
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 Posted 07/31/2016  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...he has a Sertorian coin too!
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 Posted 07/31/2016  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right now my internet connection is poor. As soon as I get back to the civilized part of Cape Cod I want to look and see what else the seller has.
My search through France & Germany last week found absolutely nothing !
Spain is an excellent place for coins !
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 Posted 07/31/2016  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NorthSideTy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't even realize this coin was minted in spain!! can always count on the CCF!! thanks everyone, ill let you know if I win the auction :)
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 Posted 07/31/2016  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter_stride to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it the same coin as this one....if so you may get lucky and snag a deal.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roman-Empir...047675.l2557
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 Posted 08/02/2016  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you win ?
I was watching and it took quite the jump with one second left !

If not I am sure we can find you another one
Maybe ...... possibly even at a better price
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 Posted 08/02/2016  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NorthSideTy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya I ended up winning it with my max bid of 141 euro, which is a little more then I wanted to spend but I'm happy with it!! Thanks for all your help :)
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 Posted 08/02/2016  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well then congratulations !
I think it will clean up nicely. There are some spots that look like they may be the stubborn sort but I believe 90% of the surface area should be relatively clean once you can do some less aggressive treatments.
I also believe the surfaces will likely have a nice olive green and black patina.
In my collection this is the best type !

Let us see some before and after pics when the new 'baby' arrives.
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 Posted 08/02/2016  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NorthSideTy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds perfect! Although iv never cleaned a coin before lol should I soak it in olive oil and then use a q-tip to try and brush the gunk away?
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First soak it in acetone for one day to remove any and all oils. This can cone from having been handled or having something applied.
Then place in clean jar on soft surface (paper towel) and fill with distilled water. Leave to soak for one week and repeat with new water. Brush occasionally with soft nylon brush. The process requires some time and effort but that is why the seller did not do it. When done properly the results can be impressive.
Leave the oil and other treatments for last.
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I purchased this bronze coin of Tiberius from a Spanish seller last year. Similar sort of patination and "dirt" on the surface. I admit to being somewhat impatient with these things but I determined the black surface patina was hard and solid enough to discreetly use a brass brush in addition to the nylon. I would have been wise to wait longer but my enthusiasm got the better of me ! I recommend patience though as you are a 'newb' to cleaning.

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