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Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/03/2016 5:55 pm Quote: It is a pretty old holder though. 1995 - 99. First fake modern PCGS holders didn't show up until 2008 and I don't believe I have seen any fake PCGS slabs with labels from before the one in use at that time. The slab in question is at least five generations earlier. But the TPG's have always been lenient on the early US coins. There are a LOT of examples in problem free holders of coins that would have been bodybagged or later detail holdered if they had been later date coins. (obviously cleaned or damaged coins in problem free slabs) At the time that Half Dime was slabbed they weren't doing detail slabs so it was slab a legitimately rare but damaged early coin, or bodybag it. They slabbed and apparently net graded it. Something which when they started out they claimed they would never do. Report this Post to the Staff
TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 08/03/2016 9:21 pm Funny how problem coins and overgraded coins tend to stay in problem-free and overgraded holders. This is an example of a coin that a TPG should want to buy and reholder. Coins like this in holders like that undermine the TPG's value. That coin in that holder is a black eye for PCGS. Report this Post to the Staff
billjones Pillar of the Community United States 1499 Posts	Posted 08/03/2016 10:34 pm Over the years I have PCGS net grade a fair number of early U.S. Coin that had problems. NGC has done it too. One NGC piece even got a CAC sticker when it was net graded. CAC bought that one in after it generated a lot of controversy on the NGC chat board. I don't know why the grading services do stuff they said they wouldn't do at the beginning of their existence, but they do. Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4594 Posts	Posted 08/04/2016 09:38 am Quote: I don't know why the grading services do stuff they said they wouldn't do at the beginning of their existence, but they do. Really? No clue? They are a business and they want to stay in business and grow, so they do what the customers (us) demand. Now it's not ONE customer, but it's the thundering herd. If we say they are too hard, they get looser. If we say they are too loose, they crack down a bit. The pendulum swings back and forth over time. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/04/2016 8:14 pm Quote: This is an example of a coin that a TPG should want to buy and reholder. They can only buy it back if someone offers it to them. Report this Post to the Staff
TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 08/08/2016 11:13 am [quote]They can only buy it back if someone offers it to them./quote] True. Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 04:31 am Quote: ...why the grading services do stuff they said they wouldn't do at the beginning of their existence,... How can one look at any slab and know if that particular slab fell withing a period when a designated TPG (the top three TPGs) was more prone to indulging in this type of behavior? Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4594 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 09:10 am Between the physical style of the slab, (sometimes) the serial/cert# and the style of the label you can date most of them within a couple of years. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 10:36 am Maybe scratches deemed over 200 years old don't carry as much weight and I like your silent net grade theory. Edited by edweather 08/09/2016 10:37 am Report this Post to the Staff
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