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Hello Guys,

Just joined this forum with the reason to identify and find what this coin is worth today.
I am not able to post the exact picture of it but I will post a picture of 250 kurush from Ottoman times because I cannot find a 500 kurush that looks like this on the internet.
The one which my friend has is 500 kurush( I am not expert at this), it loooks its from abdul hamid 2 1293 year 31. It weighs 36.08 grams and looks exactly like the picture I posted.
Is it possible that there is a 250 kurush with this weight and size of diameter 40 mm's?
Can someone please tell me if there are 250 kurush from that time that weigh this much and have the diameter of a 500 kurush from year 32?


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 Posted 08/01/2016  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a mystery. Are you sure about the date and the ruler?
Either way, if it weighs 36.08 it is not a 250 Kurush. It is definitely worth $1,400 in gold alone and likely worth a nice premium highly dependent on the condition
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Turkey 500 kurush 1906AD
left picture at the bottom says '250'
(The 500 kurush should have 'o..' on the bottom)
regnal year is 31, date AH1293 (1906AD)

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I am not able to post the exact picture of it but I will post a picture of 250 kurush from Ottoman times

250 kurush:
https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-153289

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because I cannot find a 500 kurush that looks like this on the internet.
The one which my friend has is 500 kurush

500 kurush:
https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-153324
Constantinople mint (above date)
First coinage of Abdul AHmid II has a flower to the right of the toughra, the second coinage has 'El Ghazi' (the victorious)
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 Posted 08/02/2016  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply and welcoming Guys :) . I just checked the coin and it definitely has the "0.." on the bottom which means its a 500 kurush by your explanations. Regnal year is definetely 31 and date AH1293.
I cannot say about the condition of the coin because I am not an expert, but it looks nice without big scratches or dents.
Each detail on the coin can be clearly seen.

Petrus@, you sent me a link from a coin from Abdul Hamid https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-153324, but that one has a regnal year of 32. The one here is 31, does that make it more rare and more valuable maybe?

Thanks
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dohcollector@, thanks for the reply, but the coin you sent is 250 kurush. The one I am asking about is not 250 because the value at the bottom says "0.." which means its 500 kurush as mentioned by Petrus.
I would really like to know the value of this coin
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 Posted 08/02/2016  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the original picture of it

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Here's the NGC catalogue page for this coin. As you can see, there were over 40,000 of them minted in 1293//31.

Unfortunately, having the loop soldered onto it destroys any value it might have had to a coin collector, so its value is going to be purely the bullion value.
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Thanks for the info Sap. I think that the ring can be removed with a very little damage to the coin. Do you think that this coin really lost its collector value even after the ring is desoldered properly?

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If it was just the loop alone, you could probably salvage some collector value with a neat removal. But the coin is heavily cleaned/buffed as well, possibly from being worn and rubbing against clothing. Not much you can do about it as far as collector value is concerned now unfortunately
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Thanks for the input Numismat, I totally understand the situation now.
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I would also like to know if the condition of the below coin has any collectors value aswell. It is far smaller than the previous coin but it looks like it is in better condition.

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Thanks for suggestions.
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yeah you guys are right I missed that 0 part ,i was refering to the picture hehe.....prolly my english
nway very cool coin!
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 Posted 08/14/2016  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Guys,

Do you have any idea how much is the last coin which I posted worth?
It seems its From Mohamed v 1327 year 3, but cannot find it, maybe its not that coin.

Thanks
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I would take that second item to an expert who can verify it. It seems not to be a coin, as it doesn't have a denomination. It seems to be a pure bullion round, the kind you literally can buy by the dozen on any bazaar in the Middle East. I have seen many of those during my trips there, but I never bought one, as I'm too afraid that it turns out to be fake. And then try to go back to a bazaar somewhere in Erbil and explain in your best Arab that you have been fooled for $1000 or so and that you want your money back...

Anyway, quite often Dubai and Istanbul are mentioned as production sites and almost all admit that these are modern replicas. All sellers also try to convince me that it's .999 gold.

Anyway, most of those rounds are inspired by Turkish / Ottoman designs. Some have a modern mintmark, but all lack a denomination. All also have a date on them. In this case 1327, I believe, which roughly corresponds to 1940 in Western years.
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