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German States Coins Of Note?

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I was reading the article about Roman coins one of our members linked to which mentioned how liberating, so to speak, collecting Roman coins is as you cannot hope to collect them all and can concentrate on collecting different types or themes rather than minute varieties of the same type.

In this respect, German States are similar.

If collecting a broad overview of German States coins, which ones would you include? What notable, interesting, or beautiful coins from this area do you know (preferably those that do not have a price tag in the thosands)?
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 Posted 08/11/2016  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to be a mentality thing of how you approach coins. I've noticed if you look at the US coins part of the forum a lot of people are concerned with an investment and whether "it's worth collecting" certain coins.

I collect world coins and don't bother with small changes like date or whatever, I set my own rules and do it for the collecting rather than the investment.

Every can choose how they want to do it of course, however as a hobby I find it better to not worry about investing
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 Posted 08/11/2016  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
German states? I'm aiming for a "one from every state" collection. It's not easy, as there must have been at least a couple of thousand coin-issuing states over the thousand-plus years of German coinage history.

For popular themes and sub-themes, you've got the old favourites:

- "Family" thalers, depicting numerous members of the ruling house - especially popular are the ones that depict three or more brothers.
- The "city view" thalers are always popular. For collectors on a budget, there are always "city view" kreuzers: the same view, only in miniature!
- For people at the top end of the budgetary scale, the giant multiple-thalers are expensive and beautiful.
- Tracing a particular royal house or family as their lands changed and the house split, reunified, etc.
- Tracing the ownership of particular cities that changed hands multiple times.
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German States are among my favorite '82s. The variety of kingdoms and plethora of denominations over the centuries makes for fantastic hunting and collection. Here are two of my most recent finds, a couple of Trier Petermännchen. Minor denominations can be affordable, lots of options under $100, even under $50 for dime - quarter sized circulated pieces.

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At one point I tried to write up an overview of the last non-large-silver German States coins - specifically, the coins of 1873 (the last year when such coinage was allowed).
IIRC, it never got past that one single coin (though I did occasionally look for 1870s German States coins - never found any for prices I would consider), but it would be a nice set (and it can easily be expanded to coins of 1872, 1871, even 1870, if needed).

On a completely unrelated topic, Further Austria coins are funny, because they clearly say Austria, but the place is actually a German state, not even in Austrian territory. I used to have one of those, hadn't seen it in years, unfortunately.
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Some time ago I started out on a project to collect a thaler of each German ruler in an 1863 photograph where they had all gathered to discuss politics. It must have been one of the first such photographs taken. In one sense it put a limit to what I wanted to collect. Of course it expanded to include those rulers who should have been there and didn't attend, and then it expanded again to include those rulers successors etc - but I think you can put on temporary limits to the collecting area and then just revise them when you feel like it.

In the link below I have them displayed on my webpage with a bit of background - if you are interested. It might give you a few ideas.

http://www.diadumenian.com/Congress...princes.html


One other area I'm kinda working at is medieval "pennies" or equivalent. I'm taking the English penny as a rough standard and then adding other rulers/regions to it which includes French deniers and German pfennig's or Italian grosso's as appropriate - to give a flavour of medieval Europe. I have some of them on this page below - but it's still a work in progress as the links from it don't go anywhere yet.

http://www.diadumenian.com/Congress...0Europe.html



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There are a many good opinions and ideas in the posts above.

German coinage is so vast in its scope, that it is impossible to define one good way of collecting them. I have two specialized catalogues covering issue from 1600-1800, and the other covers issues from 1800-1871. There were hundreds of coin-issuing entities (kingdoms, principalities, dukedoms, free cities, and a few others that I cannot translate) in the early periods, such that the quantity of coinage minted is vast.

I myself have collected coins issued during the Napoleonic wars by the various german states, as well as selected issues from 1815-1871. That is my speciality. I specially like the minor coinage, for example: Pfennige, Groschen, Kreuzer, Heller, and also the 1/6 and 1/3 Thaler coins. There are many rarities in that area that attract relatively little attention. Further I have tended to concentrate on issues from Hessen, Nassau, Kassel and the principalities around here, for example Hessen Homburg. That is the probably the way that many german collectors go about it: they concentrate on coinage of those regions/area familiar to them.




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I collect coins from Brandenburg-Prussia. I love the diversity of types and I'm astonished every time I see a type I have never seen before.

In fact, you can even get aunc late minors for around 25 $ which is nice if one is about to start collecting Prussian coins. It would also be easy to collect only provincial issues such as the ones minted for Silesia, or Eastern Prussia.

Now here is one of my Prussian Thalers: Not very rare but I simply like how these coins look and besides I was born and raised in Brandenburg so that is basically the connection that I've got with all the coins from that region.



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