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 Posted 03/04/2008  2:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fiddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's the last of my Morgans for your grading practice and viewing pleasure. Thanks for all the help and advice. I'll be posting some Peace dollars soon. I've got one that is a great example of why not to store in PVC.

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 Posted 03/04/2008  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alzika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say AU55 due to wear above cheek and wear on breast of eagle on reverse. Kinda hard to tell from pics, though.
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 Posted 03/04/2008  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one's a tough call. First impression would be AU, but 1902-O's are known for mushy strikes so Mint State isn't out of the question. Another point of interest is the clashing I see - there are a couple of letter-transfer clashes for that issue, not necessarily increasing value but they make for a much more interesting coin.
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 Posted 03/04/2008  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will say it cold be BU (But I just can't grade these O minted coins) because coins minted in New Orleans seem to all show a weak strike and if you don't have a trained eye it will look as if it were circulated when in fact it wasn't. We have a few members on here that are pretty good at determining which it is (wear or weak strike) but I am just not one of them
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 Posted 03/04/2008  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fiddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superdave could you pontificate on the letter clashes please?
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 Posted 03/04/2008  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have a look at this thread, fiddler:

https://goccf.com/t/26532&SearchTerms=clash

Everything I said in there applies to this coin; either letter transfer I mention there could be here also. Sometimes they're faint; you'll have to maybe rock the coin back and forth under a loupe to see the clashed letter from the right angle.

I've had your pics open on my monitor for an hour and a half, and can't decide if it's Uncirculated or not. This is truly one which can't be graded accurately from a photo.
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 Posted 03/04/2008  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking MS all the way. The two big hits below the chin and the marks on the left side reverse in the fields certainly hurt the overall grade for sure. Reason I think it's mint state is what Dave and others have been pondering, is it just a weak strike? I never claimed to be a grading expert, but what stands out to me is the cotton bolls. I think the lack of detail in these is what tells me a weak strike. If it was a decent strike, I think you'd see a lot of wear all over the coin to get these as "smooth" as they appear to be.

Again, this is only my opinion.
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 Posted 03/05/2008  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im with tights on this one.....MS something.
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 Posted 03/05/2008  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yeah....and.....wow, beautiful coin.
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 Posted 03/05/2008  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mr merc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fiddler, if you have a reputable coin dealer or 2 in your area try taking it in to them telling them you're not interested in selling the coin you'd just like their opinion on the grade. Many folks here could tell you for sure if they had the coin in hand if it was MS. It's very hard to tell from pics on a coin like this.
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 Posted 03/06/2008  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fiddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr.Merc I'm sure there are I just don't know of any.
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 Posted 03/06/2008  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fiddler,

I nicked your pics and highlighted the clashes that I could see from the pictures provided. Look at these areas under magnification ... then look on the exact opposite side of the coin from the spot and you'll see how the clashes are made when the dies come together without a planchet in between them.

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 Posted 03/07/2008  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fiddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks
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