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Cracked The Code? Honing My Photoskills.

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 Posted 08/26/2016  07:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So, yeah, I've been reading around on the forum, and didn't really get any closer to my goal to, as they say in Pokèmon; "I wanna be the very best!".
But suddenly this morning, I had a medal lying on my desk, and EUREKA! I spotted that my ceiling spot reflected light from a white wall, and gave perfect lighting as I stared down on this little prooflike 17th century silver medal.

I got to work, and cut a big hole in the lid of an plastic box, which is white and reflective. Tilted my camera 2-3 degrees, and pointed three jansjos straigth up in the plastic, and two directly on the coin.

Voilà! I have nearly managed to mimic PCGS Trueview. Which lately has been my sole purpose in life.

So basicly, I have incorporated axial-light, with the direct light, to give some luster.
And the good thing is; It seems to work on ALL types of coins.

Kit: Canon Eos700D, with Canon 100MM macro, 5 jansjos, and a crummy old Chinese photostand.

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 Posted 08/26/2016  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good results

Is that 1880-CC dollar in a TPG (or GSA) slab? If so, how did you get rid of the glare from the plastic when shooting axial. That's always the biggest problem for me when shooting axial or pseudo-axial.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you've got something there.

I assume the SYKKEL-VM'93 is a proof.
If so, it is VERY well done; proofs are notoriously hard to image correctly.

I'd be interested to see what you can do with a rainbow toned coin.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1880 CC is RAW, but might come from a GSA back in the days.

Sykkel, is indeed a proof. I will rummage trough my coins, and see if I can find a good toner.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome- can you show a photo of your setup with a small explanation.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh, humm.. Well, I can see what I can do.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, very nice lighting effect. Show us how you did it!

Can you also put a mirror where your coin is placed and snap a shot to show the light pattern?
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 Posted 08/27/2016  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So this is the lightpattern. There is two jansjos pointing straigt down, at roughly 10 and 2. The white area is the reflected area of the three upturned jansjos.
The black area is where the camera points straigth down, and here I can achieve the proof, and prooflike looks, where the fields are black, and only devices are illuminated.

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as for the rig; Well, this looks like crap, but works.



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 Posted 08/27/2016  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aleroe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I think, this is an improved ringlight, with extra directional lighting.
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 Posted 08/27/2016  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice aleroe! I like how you shot the coin in two different areas of the reflected light pattern to show the differences. I guess the extra lights are too low to show in the reflection? Do you have an issue with focus on the top/bottom of the coin due to the tilt?
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 Posted 08/27/2016  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the white board around the lens hood made of and how do you keep it up there?

If you have the time, I would also like to see some pics of some non-proof, but extremely lusterous, copper coins. This area gives me the biggest headaches


EDIT: From the looks of the pics here, you're capturing larger size coins, so your working distance from the coin is greater. If you do something that is US dime or cent size, and have to lower the camera to focus, what does that do to your lighting scheme? I'm using a Canon 100mm macro as well. In order to get a US cent framed properly and in focus, the distance from the end of the lens to the cent on stage is ~165mm.
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 Posted 08/27/2016  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love the photos. Got an editing question for ya.

How did you get the white background behind the coin?

I use Canons DPP and when I crop it, it puts up a black background. I cant figure out how to change it.
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 Posted 09/06/2016  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mamastinky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aleroe, I really really really dig the results you've shown for each of these coins. I believe the real key to this is the longer focal length, too. I have a 100mm Canon macro, but I have not been able to use it because my copy stand is too small. Thank you for reminding me that I wanted to do this, I am going to make a now copy stand happen, now!
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 Posted 09/06/2016  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for showing that.
don't be self conscious about how the rig looks- the results say it all.
Congrats.
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