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These Two Coins Worth A Dip To Remove Bad Tarnish?

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Have a 1881 and 1902 Morgan's. Both seem undergraded by at least 2 points probably due to dark tarnish aka lack of luster. These worth cracking out and possibly try to remove the bad tarnish? I don't have much into them got them cheap. The 1881 is a ms63 the 1902 is a ms62. Thoughts?



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 Posted 08/27/2016  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A one grade bump won't be worth while breaking these out. I'd leave them as is.
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The first one might dip out, but it could do more harm than good. I think that the obverse of the 1881 dollar has muted luster to begin with. Dipping will only make it more obvious.

The 1902 two dollar is too dark to dip, especially the reverse. Some of the tarnish will come off, but enough will be left to make the coin less attractive than it is now. In other words the tarnish has gone too deep into the surface of the coin. All coin dip does is remove oxidized metal with a mild acid.
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 Posted 08/27/2016  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Omegaraptor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first Morgan has subdued luster on the obverse. Not worth cracking out, it wouldn't upgrade anyway.
The 1902 I personally like. Leave it as is.
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I have some ms70 it done wonders with a 21d graded ms62, the luster is so much better I think it could be a 65. Bill I agree with your assessment I think the 1902 is too far gone to possibly save and upon further inspection it wouldn't grade higher than 63 due to weak strike. I think the 1881 is possibly worth cracking it out. I'll think more on it and wait for others opinions.
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Here is the 21D after a ms70 fix.



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 Posted 08/27/2016  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OttawaVoyageur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your first post had a 1881 and 1902.
Unless it was posted in some other thread, we haven't seen your 1921 in its initial state.

I agree with Omegaraptor, the 1902 should be kept as is.

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Agree. Can you show us pics of the '21-D before the dip?
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The toning is natural. These are more attractive now. If you dip them you'll lose the nicest characteristic of the coins.
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This coin just had zero luster and no eye appeal. Coin has more appeal now and way better luster....coin was probably improperly stored

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I cracked out the 1881. Looks some much better now. Solid 64 maybe 65. Marks on face are not as bad in person. Thoughts now?

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 Posted 08/28/2016  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Necer149 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really doubt you get 65, I'll take your word on the marks and give it a 64. Otherwise I see it making 63. GL
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The coin is no longer original; I personally wouldn't buy dipped coins.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PAC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '81 looks MS-63 to me after the dip. I'm having a lot of trouble getting to MS-64, but it's possible it really just looks nicer in hand. However, the images are showing a lot of contact marks on the cheeks (especially) and fields. That said, I just can't see MS-65 as a possibility.

Not trying to be rude at all, just giving my honest opinion before you invest more money into regrading it.
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its tough to tell from these pics whether or not you've stripped the sulfide layer and to what degree. I don't see luster on either coin as much as I see lighting giving the appearance of a cleaner looking surface versus the coins when they were slabbed. The coins looks dipped at this point but that could be because I know it was done! I'll be curious to see what PCGS or NGC would grade it at now.
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What method do you use for dipping them? I'd like to try this on some common date, lower grade dimes and quarters. Basically experiment on coins that would have minimal value loss from a cleaning.
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