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Opinion - Is This "Bu"?

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Is this "Choice BU"?

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BU = Brilliant Uncirculated . (RED)
CH BU = Very Brilliant Uncirculated . (RED)
one would think this is a choice brown unc . But in my honest opinion ,something is not right with this 14-D .
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BU and Choice BU are both Marketing terms, and are not actual grades.
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To answer your question - no it's not UNC, mint state, BU, whatever you want to say.


Looks to be a nice AU-55 or AU-58. Something I need for my book.
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BU and Choice BU are both Marketing terms, and are not actual grades.



It looks like dirt in the devices and at the angle the photo was taken, it would be difficult to see any wear on the cheek bone.
I have to wonder why a coin like that would be sold raw.
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- key date raw coins on ebay set off this danger signal in my head...

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BU and Choice BU are both Marketing terms, and are not actual grades.

They were when I was a newbie ; Early 60's .
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Uncirculated just wasn't good enough, so we had to have brilliant uncirculated, which still wasn't quite good enough, so now we have choice brilliant uncirculated.

If I have a choice brilliant uncirculated coin, and I pass it around a table full of gentlemen to show it off, when I get it back, is it still uncirculated?
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Super coin in any event. Probably AU-50 or better detail, but seems no trace of original surfaces.
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If I have a choice brilliant uncirculated coin, and I pass it around a table full of gentlemen to show it off, when I get it back, is it still uncirculated?

Depends on the manner it's passed around. slid across the marble table top with no protection to 1000 people or in a airtite hand to hand among 10 people would give different results.
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Not BU, it's not Brilliant (bright lusterous red)...but it does look AU to mint state (lean toward MS). The pictures aren't good enough.
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One big red flag is that a 14-D this high of grade should be in a slab unless there are problems with it.
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It is unnatural and looks burnished. Stay away.
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Depends on the manner it's passed around.


It would be circulated, but could still be in mint state. That's why we use the grading term MS (mint State) rather than uncirculated.
Maybe people should say BMS (Brilliant Mint State) rather than BU (Brilliant Uncirculated).
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Look at the reverse fields on either side of "ONE CENT". It does look like there is something going on here. If you could get this coin in a top tier holder, it would be worth a lot more.

I don't know enough about 14-D fakes to have an opinion.

However, it is definitely not Mint State, but still a nice coin if it were real, and if it would holder.
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