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Hello All, There have been some very nice CWTs posted here, and there have also been a few questionable ones, including a few recently. A lot of fakes are coming out of Europe and Asia and I would urge everyone to be cautious. If the deal looks to good to be true it probably is. If the coin looks dull and and grainy in appearance then in may be cast. If it is not in the Fuld books then is may be suspect. I'm not saying there aren't unrecorded CWTs to be discovered but they are few and far between. So be cautious, look at the surfaces. Do they look like a struck coin or are the grainy. Think about who you are buying from, are they reputable and knowledgeable about CWTs? If you are buying from ebay, where is the dealer located, do they have a return policy? Happy Hunting, Ronnie |
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Welcome to CCF, and thanks for the warning on Civil War Tokens.
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Welcome to the CCF, Ronnier ....  Some months ago, I spotted the listings of numerous, fake CWT's being offered on ebay by a seller in Bulgaria. Thanks to the efforts of a few of our top CWT guys, the postings were taken down. I do expect that these fakes will reenter the market in the future. They tended to display a mildly granular surface and discoloration with wear appearing to be in the XF+ grade. In effect, the uniform appearance of these varied "patriotics" and "store cards" triggered my attention. |
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Yes and you are correct. There are A LOT of fakes out there when it comes to coins and tokens. |
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Thanks for all the welcomes.  I have been lurking around for a while and thought it was time to join in. |
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. The majority of CWT collectors are very aware of the fakes and what to watch for. Join the CWTS to be informed. |
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Thanks for the Welcome, and for your comments.
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Thats why I only buy slabbed coins (NGC and PCGS) 99% of the time.
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Thats why I only buy slabbed coins (NGC and PCGS) 99% of the time. Granted, the odds are with you, buying slabbed pieces. Watch out for the fake coins in fake slabs though. Also, bear in mind that some of the top TPG'ers have certified fakes on occasion ... for example, remember the micro-O Morgan dollar fiasco? History often tends to be repeated ... Edited by ExoGuy
09/23/2016 11:56 pm
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Of course there are a lot of fake CWTs around, just like there are a lot of fake coins around. I don't agree with you on Europe being the prime source of them. A lot of fakes that turn up here come from Asia, mainly mainland China. And trust me: we hate it just as much as you do!
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I don't agree with you on Europe being the prime source of them. Some months ago, there was a seller in Eastern Europe who had posted over forty fake CWT's on ebay. Whether these were made there or in China is anybody's guess. There were many varieties, from commons to rare, and all had a uniform look; this being XF details on grainy, discolored planchets. This is by far the most that I've ever seen, emanating from a single source. I've seen a fair number of CWT fakes, stateside, over the past forty years. These were all common varieties that were often contained in bulk lots or small groups among genuine tokens, such that most buyers wouldn't notice. These were made in the U.S.A. back in the centennial 1960's and sold as novelty pieces; this, prior to the Coinage Act of 1973 which required a COPY stamp. These earlier, unmarked copies often appear to be of a more fuzzy strike with a more granular surface than the aforementioned, more deceptive fakes seen on ebay. The circa 1960's era replicas tended to have uncommonly thick planchets; this, to my modest experience as a collector. While the bulk of coin/token fakes tends to be flowing from southeast Asia, Antarctica may be the only fake-free continent. That said, I've yet to see such a large and varied group of fake CWT's being peddled by a single source in Asia or elsewhere. Here's a pic of a centennial grouping of Civil War token fakes that was packaged and marketed back in the 1960's.  Edited by ExoGuy
09/24/2016 06:08 am
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@Dave H, You probably need to post this on one of the counterfeit forums here (specifically for ebay fakes). Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Posted 09/10/2016 6:54 pm
