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 Posted 09/24/2016  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greatcollections to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These modern gold coins (especially 5 oz., 10 oz. etc.) are becoming more popular. Many were produced in tiny numbers (and over the years, some were melted etc.).

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 Posted 09/24/2016  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
4504,

As I recall, you own a 15oz Angle MS67 that you sent to NGC for grading. It looks like you made a good investment on a very attractive coin.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4504 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Slider23, yes it would appear on the surface that I made a good investment, however the unpleasant truth was that I have been following angel coins for years and it was my dream to have a "big" one.

this is where my investment method failed... in order to afford this coin, I had to sell several monster boxes (1 thousand) silver eagles at a big loss... I bought the silver when it was $23 an oz but I sold them at $15 an oz, so I essentially took an $8,000 loss to get the coin, which, at best, I am breaking even should I ever sell the 15 oz angel, since I got it at $18,000. I was on a serious time and money crunch to the point the seller emailed me that he was canceling the transaction, so I could not wait for silver to rise, the coin would have surely been gone by then or rose in price dramatically and I did not want to take those chances.

so I am not the brightest investor in the world, but I knew I would never see this coin again at a price I could afford. in the last 8 years, I have seen like four or five 5 oz gold angels, three of the 10 oz (one of which is on ebay right now - ungraded, see below...), two of the 15 oz angels (one of which I bought, the other one is referenced here on the HA auction), and NONE of the 20 or 25 oz angels.

so, yes, on the surface it would APPEAR that I did well, but on the other hand I broke even at best, considering the silver loss. of course, silver rose dramatically right after I sold them, but I am used to this kind of luck.

here is the 10 oz gold angel on ebay right now, and it is going for a good price, but upon close examination I see what appears to be scratches and other defects on it. it is not in a capsule so the possible defects cannot be attributed to a scratched capsule. even if I had the money, I would not buy it, it has been on ebay for about a month or so. in my opinion, remember, this is just my opinion, this coin, if I am seeing what I am seeing, would be lucky to rate as a 65. plus the color seems very flat on it, but this could easily attributed to the lighting and other other photographing differences.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Isle-o...AOSwMgdXxcOn

in any case, thanks for the comment... mike
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 Posted 09/24/2016  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4504 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
plus the 10 oz one looks worn, but in any case it might be hard to go wrong on it financially, because I believe that it is 10 oz in troy ounces and the melt value of the coin is essentially is what the seller is asking for it.

such as shame, if my observations are accurate. I collect angel coins and have all of the 1 oz varieties except for the INCUSE 1 oz gold angel. I have it here and on government mint's "wanted" list (who appear to have the exclusive rights for the incuse version). If I see one, and it is not too bad of a price it is likely I will get it... my kid's rotten teeth fix can wait as I want to help him get his teeth fixed (he has m.s. and so has enough problems, I am just a dad who wants to help, the delay is actually due to his fear of the dentist, so he would need to be "under" or asleep with the aid of intraveneous drugs to have the work done. I plan to mostly fund it with a sale of a few 100 oz silver bars.

sorry for the long story, but I imagine myself to be a writer haha and have a tendancy to go on and on. it drives my friends crazy, to the point they yell at me 'GET TO THE POINT!"

p.s. I rarely capitalize with casual writings like this, my apologies... and my "kid" is 35 and is more scared of the dentist than anyone I know... December is the target teeth fix.
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