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Valued Member
Canada
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Could this coin have the potential to be hot? or another dud.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Edited by wildflowerAB 09/16/2016 12:24 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Some would see that kind of plating/color treatment as damage to an otherwise desirable coin. It does look kinda cool, but not something I'd want in my collection.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If I not mistake, the price has been raised.
But again - initial hype, and then - not really interested people.
What happened with "Burning Maple"? Several of them issued, and not sure, that people remember, which was "the first"...anyway, majority of auctions ended below CAD 100.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
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Found here; http://criminalnotebook.ca/index.ph...ncy_OffencesQuote: Defacing current coins 456. Every one who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin that has been defaced, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. R.S., c. C-34, s. 414.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Valued Member
Canada
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Gotta love the 420 mintage 
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Quote: maybe it requires the proper, uh, "motivation" Love that band, particularly "Willin", 1971 Track 5."I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari Tehachapi to Tonapah Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made Driven the back roads so I wouldn't get weighed And if you give me, weed, whites, and wine And you show me a sign I'll be willin', to be movin'" There is a theme. Good chuckle. 
Edited by SilverDon 09/18/2016 06:01 am
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Quote: Quote: Defacing current coins 456. Every one who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin that has been defaced, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. R.S., c. C-34, s. 414. If their illegal than why are reputable dealers openly selling them?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Simple the RCM just don't care about their copyrights and the counterfeit issue, they leave it to the end users, us.
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Canada
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Quote: If their illegal than why are reputable dealers openly selling them? What john says plus there is a gray area on what defacing actually means, grinding off the face would be a quite blatant "defacing" but putting on some color without actually damaging the coins, eh whos knows I guess lol. Good Times...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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In upholding this law, the prosecution would be in the difficult position of arguing that the "defacing" of the Maple Leaf coin lessened it's face value below $5. Then the defence would point out that the "enhancing" was not defacement whatsoever because it increased the appeal beyond the $5 value more than 100 fold. The BofC has always redeemed "mutilated" or defaced banknotes at par, but aside from more recent ARP, not typically coin. Therefore I think this law was designed to prevent a faction from, for example, drawing devil's horns on the effigy of kings or queens in order to make an anti-govt statement whereby the general public would become uncomfortable in accepting "defaced" circualtion coin in their change. All laws were created with a specific intent. Flash forward to the 21st century in Canada with a PM who promoted the legalization of marijuana as an election promise, meanwhile RCM is likely the direct supplier to this German company. For the court to attempt to prosecute a foreign company for defacing a $5 silver coin while RCM churns out hundreds of NCLT designs each year would be an utterly entertaining court case. If so, is RCM in violation of Cdn Criminal Code as well?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bullion loophole? Because they are not intended for circulation? No intent to defraud?
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There's no grey area, these unofficial colourings obviously has no RCM authorizations so it's defacing, copyrights infringements, but it's not for us to battle, there are still collectors who believe these mintages of 400 or so, are official RCM products, it's misleading to the hobby but the RCM in their wisdom just don't care because we keep buying their endless coins.
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