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1888 1lb Silver Morgan

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 Posted 09/19/2016  8:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fmmarc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone, I'm new here and have a question about a 1888 1lb silver morgan. Just got this one on a trade for a safe that the guy won't get for a few weeks. I have been doing some research and I'm beginning to think it might be a fake. On the side of the coin it says .999 fine silver 1 pound troy in one spot. In another spot it says 1663 on the side. If anyone knows about these please enlighten me. Pics attached.

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 Posted 09/19/2016  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the best answer that I found on the internet. Someone asked a similar question. I cut and pasted the answer from the following link:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/...21010AAH1FPA

Best Answer: Be careful here. These are not coins. They are private-issue medals made to look like Morgan silver dollars.

And here's where you need to be careful. There are people selling these on sites such as ebay who are either dishonest or ignorant. They either are intentionally misrepresenting what they have or don't know any better.

Some of these are actually one Troy pound of .999 pure silver. One Troy pound is 12 Troy ounces weighing 31.1 grams each. It is NOT the same as the avoirdupois or 'regular' pound with 16 ounces that have 28 grams. Yet there are sellers who have the lighter, less silver Troy pound claiming it has 16 ounces. People who hear the price of silver in the news but don't know the difference can drastically overpay.

There are also certain versions of these medals out there that DO weigh one avoirdupois pound, 16 ounces. But what you get is one pound of copper with maybe ten or Twenty Cents worth of .999 silver plated over the copper. Dishonest sellers play up the silver part and downplay the copper, to make you think you're getting something really great for your $50 or more. You're not. You're getting about $3.37 worth of copper along with those pennies worth of silver.

A genuine Troy pound silver medal is the price of 12 Troy ounces of silver, plus no more than a 10% premium to a collector or someone looking for bullion. The silver alone is worth close to $385 as of today. $425 is pretty much the top price.

Now, if you go check ebay sold auctions, you'll see one that is only marked 'one pound', and the seller doesn't say anything other than it's a pound, that sold for $550. Whoever bought is going to be real unhappy the day he goes to sell it and is told there's only 12 Troy ounces of silver. So you have to know what you're doing when you deal in these medals.
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 Posted 09/19/2016  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the CCF!

This looks to be a 1lb silver bullion coin. worth melt. Definately not a genuine Morgan silver dollar.

On reverse it says "1Lb. Fine Silver" it should read as "One Dollar". A true Morgan only has about .77 of and ounce of silver and weighs 26 to 27 grams I believe without looking it up.
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09/19/2016 9:09 pm
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 Posted 09/19/2016  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fmmarc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input guys. I did check ebay and thats when things got sketchy. I have a business acquaintance that has one of those gun looking things that will give me the exact makeup of the piece. I will see him next week and will let you know if it's real or not.
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 Posted 09/19/2016  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perfect. Get an XRF to hit it and let us know. Some of these are plated counterfeit copper core bullion. Fingers crossed. Btw, this belongs in the bullion forum. I'll ask a mod to move it
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Also check the actual weight. These can be one troy pound, one avoirdupois pound, 16 troy ounces (unusual) or even 12 avoirdupois ounces (illegally marked).
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 Posted 09/21/2016  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still a bit puzzled by the 1663 on the side.

Despite the beautiful design (I do like Morgans, too), can I ask you how much this would have been to buy? I hope not much more than $250, if it's indeed one troy pound (or about 373.24 grams) of fine silver (.999). It surely makes for a nice bullion round, if it's real!
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