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North Borneo 1/2 Cent 1886 - Proof ?

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 Posted 09/21/2016  1:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone knows whether this is a proof coin or how to identify a Straits Settlement, North Borneo or Sarawak Proof coin ?

North-Borneo-1/2-Cent-1886---Proof-?

North-Borneo-1/2-Cent-1886---Proof-?
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 Posted 09/21/2016  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there,

definitely a North Borneo coin, not proof in my opinion.

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 Posted 09/22/2016  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What would make it a Proof coin Filip ?
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strong strike, full detail, obviously from fresh dies. likely some what reflective in hand.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A proof is not a grade or condition. A proof is a method of manufacturing.
Generally made including things like polished dies, special handling, special prepped blanks, etc.
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A proof coin is struck with a special die, which has polished fields and frosty details.

Proof coins are generally intended to be collected or are intended for presentation purposes.

There are cases in which a coin appears as a proof, but was not intended/authorized to be proof by the mint.

Generally these coins are more rare, due to the fact, that they are ment for circulation and not for collecting.

Proof coins are carefuly struck, they do not have bag-marks and are picked up / packged one by one after the striking
(they do not fall in bag). This makes production more expensive, which results generally in smaller mintages and higher
retail prices.





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Were the same standards applied at the 19th century Heaton Mint? Did proofs have polished fields and frosty details at the time?

I am not saying this coin is a proof, but it has clearly been struck with much care.
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Apologies for dredging up a dormant old post...

This coin has bugged me too long, finally decided to send it in.

Came back as an SP, seems like counts as a Proof?

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Heaton mint specimen strike. Specimen and proof are somewhat interchangeable....they both have the same intent behind their manufacture and often similar qualities. Heaton mint produced a wide array of different specimen finishes over the years, most of which usually didn't live up to the fully proof cameo strikes that The Royal Mint could achieve. The Heaton mint had a hoard of 1870s-1890s Canadian coins from their archives that entered the collecting market in the 1970s or 1980s...I would say it's highly likely that other coins struck by them for other countries would have been in their archives as I've seen many H mint specimen coins in high quality on the market. Your coin is quite possibly from that hoard.
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