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 Posted 03/11/2008  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add web99com to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sorry, but I have no idea what a decimal or pre-decimal coin might be - I'm no collector. But I have a $200 Australian gold coin, Queen Elizabeth on the face, koala bear on the reverse. There's more description in the little case that I'll spare you in case this is not the right place for my question. Not surprisingly, I'm interested in getting a value on the coin. If this is not the right forum, please point me in the right direction for information. If it helps, I'm located in New York City. Thanks!
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 Posted 03/11/2008  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a fine place for your question: the gold value of your coin as of this morning is in the US$285 range.
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03/11/2008 1:27 pm
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 Posted 03/11/2008  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin of which you speak generally sells for around gold spot price.

By the way, a Koala is not a bear. They are a marsupial. Sorry for being picky.

I've lived in semi-bushland for 45 years and I've never seen one. They are very fussy what they eat and where they live. The rate at which bushland is being cleared in Australia, I probably will never see one in the wild in my lifetime.
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 Posted 03/11/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
McDonalds catalogue indicates price at AUS$265 uncirculated or $290 proof.
They were issued 1980 to 1986 and are 22 carat gold (91.67% gold, 8.33% copper). Gold content is 9.167 grams if you want to check against current gold values.
Two different portraits of the queen were used in different years.
Decimal currency (100 cents =$1.00) started 14 February, 1966 in Australia. Prior to that it was pounds, shillings and pence.

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 Posted 03/12/2008  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
Learjet, within their range, koalas are plentiful, but non-existent elsewhere.
I've been to two sanctuaries: both worth the time, trouble, and money. One was near Penrith, in the suburbs of Sydney; the other was at Lone Pine, a few kilometres from the centre of Brisbane.
Recently, the population in South Australia, particularly on Kangaroo Island, has "exploded", and there was talk of a "cull".
My friends in the Adelaide Hills see them every day.
I have a friend near Toowoomba reports seeing them every week.
In Victoria, I have seen them at -
Monash University (a large tribe there: very active in late afternoon);
Hanging Rock (went there for a picnic; has anyone seen Miranda lately ?); and
Phillip Island is thick with them (take a quinella on them and the fairy penguins).
I'm in Darwin now: none up here.

Back to the coins: the $200 koalas were non-circulating legal tender. I'm not sure, but I think I recall reading that they were made at the Perth Mint.

Peter


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 Posted 03/12/2008  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I get here are snakes and more snakes Lol.
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 Posted 03/12/2008  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was under the (probably mistaken) impression these were minted in Canberra. Is that possible? Now I've got something else to look up.
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 Posted 03/12/2008  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I was under the (probably mistaken) impression these were minted in Canberra...

No, you're correct. The Perth Mint didn't resume gold coin production until the bullion "nuggets" commenced in 1986.
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 Posted 03/15/2008  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zaggy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Round here, lots of Blue Tongues, few koala's... Not far from here though, if you look hard enough you can find koala's in the wild...
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 Posted 04/12/2008  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the last year or so I have known of maybe a dozen or more of these $200 coins from varying years, go to the bank for face value. Kind of a shame, that they are likely to just end up going back to the mint to be melted down, although will make the ones still with collectors worth more over time I guess as they become hard to get.
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 Posted 04/12/2008  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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...Kind of a shame, that they are likely to just end up going back to the mint to be melted down...

Yep, that's exactly what happens to NCLT that's deposited at the bank for face value, unless someone at the bank either reissues them for face value to a customer who asks for them (that's why I've included "banks" in my list of places to get coins from cheaply, in this thread) or the tellers decide to receive part of their pay "in kind" and buy them themselves.

The same thing happens when people "deposit" some sovereigns. Their accounts get credited $2 for a sovereign ($1 for a half-sov) and the coins would go back to the mint for melting and reissue as new collector coins.

Here in this country, the banks themselves aren't allowed to sell such "windfall" coins for a profit. I understand, from posts made on-forum by bank employees, that the banks even prefer it when someone else comes in and takes deposited NCLT off their hands for face value... there's less paperwork for them that way.
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 Posted 04/12/2008  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can understand why they would probably prefer to get them back out at face value from the branch itself. If you think about the added costs to send it back to only redeem face value from the Mint anyway.

I think that I am going to have to make my way to some local banks, Sap do you know if they require an account for this sort of thing?
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 Posted 04/13/2008  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't hurt to ask (the worst they can do is say "no"), but it will certainly make them friendlier if you're an account-holder with them.

With bullion prices where they are now, don't expect to find too many people depositing precious metal coins these days. Bank findings were better a few years ago, when their bullion value was near or even below face value. At the nadir of gold prices in 1999-2000, even the coin dealers were sending people with $200 coins to the banks, and offloading their unwanted coins there.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never hesitate to go to a bank where I am not a customer. They too want to get rid of the 1 and 2 cents, $5 and $10 coins and as Sap said, their $200s.

Just ask. They can simply say no. And don't hesitate to go back often, as they change their tellers more often than I change my socks and jocks.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yass,

What has been your success rate in finds at the banks? Do you get much positive response when you go in?
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