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So how many coins do you think were made with this "variety"? Just curious how long it takes before something like this is noticed.
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Very nice one Sandy. Cant wait to see the new listing!!
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Looks like your coin is a MDS. So:  So if they continued to use that die, about 750,000 were struck with that die crack that may have gotten worse and maybe tuned into a Cud and the die was retired early. So I guess I'm saying, I don't know how many for sure. |
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Thanks coop for answering the question, I was looking for that image of the strike per die and couldn't find it. @ Copperround a Die Crack, Die Chip, Die Break those are actually not "Varieties" but die events that happen as the Die ages. Some are worth money and usually they are referred to as Errors - When you get a Cud out of it - then that is a really cool find. I have only found 1 Cud and it was on a North Dakota Quarter Reverse. Good questions :) |
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Based on the severe plating issues this coin has I find it impossible to determine the exact die state but they can clearly get thousands of coins off of a die like this before catching it. Most dies get retired for die cracks but they gotta catch them and based on the type of glass the inspectors use and the speed at which they examine a coin from the catch bin I'd have to assume a lot get past them. I don't know how many coins they were getting off of a set of dies in 2005 but in 1998 it was upwards of 2.5 million average from a Lincoln Cent die. Edited by koinpro
10/03/2016 9:58 pm
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I consider all changes to the die such as die chips, cracks, clashes, etc., to be die varieties simply because they are variations. "Die Event" is just confusing and a fairly worthless term in my humble opinion. It's nonspecific and could almost include anything such as a die falling out of a press. Better to stick with precision than to drift off to virtually meaningless terms that can encompass way too many possibilities outside of an actual change to the die. Some consider these minor changes to be minor errors but that's like saying getting wrinkles in the corners of your eyes as you age are errors. When they are minor I call them minor varieties.
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10/03/2016 10:09 pm
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Ken. Glad your back.
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10/03/2016 10:19 pm
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Same here Ken, nice to have you back on the forum.
That is great information - I just never thought of die cracks etc as varieties - that is why I am here - learning every day.
Thank you very much.
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Well I have to disagree with Ken on calling them die varieties. A die variety to me is created on the die before the first strike could happen. A die event is something that happened during the dies life after it has been used. But That is how I view the issue.
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Thank You JC - Looks great :)
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Congrats on the new listing!!  |
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Thank you all, this was a pretty cool find.
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