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Fraudelent 1 Oz Pamp Suisse Gold Bar Seller Lilb1.us.n8vssxuga

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 Posted 10/06/2016  4:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Zero feedback seller lilb1.us.n8vssxuga item 112158317547

http://www.ebay.com/sch/lilb1.us.n8vssxuga/m.html

Stolen photos from reputable seller usgoldbureau item 232095429536 serial #544513

Does a 0 zero feedback seller have a right to steal a photo with a unique serialized # worth $1,376usd ?

Another case of fraud. Actual gold bar should be pictured.
Also, with an ebay seller id of lilb1.us.n8vssxuga , its likely a scam to confuse.

seller lilb1.us.n8vssxuga Just sold the exact same bar Oct. 4 for $1,325 item 112152476880


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10/06/2016 10:17 pm
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 Posted 10/13/2016  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slydexic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for pointing me at your recent topics, there was a couple things I found of interest.

(Please don't think I'm speaking negatively at all, I could be completely off so feel free to correct me on what I'm about to say)

You are saying it is fraud because the picture is taken from another seller. My guess would be that this picture is floating around a lot more than just that other seller and if we dig around on ebay we can probably find it elsewhere there too. It appears computer rendered to me, not really a photo persay, maybe the PAMP suisse guys originally made the photo even.

The actual bar must be pictured, I get that but, I just don't think it constitutes fraud to not have it, I think it just constitutes an ebay violation.

The issue that I have calling this fraud even if that is what it is, is that then it would seem to me that the first vendor that has this photo would also be committing fraud and I *really* don't think thats the case, big seller, great feedback. Specifically, they have sold 4 bars on the linked ebay item. Even if this was an actual photo of the bar usgoldbureau is selling 4 bars can't have the same serial number and be legitimate. So, it would either be "fraud" from them having the same serial #'s (not authentic) or it would be "fraud" from not posting the front / back of the actual item.

I get the red flags everywhere and I get the ebay violation. I don't see the fraud though, I would think that would be completely dependent upon what the seller shipped (and in this case, whatever they shipped they got positive feedback for it, which would make me lean away from fraud rather than towards it).

Curious of your comments :)


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Update: Recent Feedback for item Perth Mint 10 Gram Gold Bar Fine in Assay (#112173687127)
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Please be aware that the gold this seller is selling is counterfeit, completely
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Update;
Recent Negative Feedback for item Perth Mint 10 Gram Gold Bar Fine in Assay (#112173687127)

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Please be aware that the gold this seller is selling is counterfeit, completely

Feedback was revised on Nov-15-16 08:42

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Seller was very nice and professional,I would definitely do business again


Still a fraud, scam. Just sold 112190620981 counterfeit 1 oz. Perth gold bar with whited out serial # for US $1,325. Seller gave positive feedback. Wake-up it was fake

Real[top photo], Fake[bottom photo]
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Seller just listed 3 more gold bars. Probably more to come. Get them authenticated!
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11/17/2016 01:35 am
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Relisted with stock photos
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