New... Dan Carr 1964 Morgan Dollars!

All is Good mate But seriously there are literally Millions of REAL coins out there that people could add to their collections and you really think that these Dan Carr horrors are "Awsome".
I think I will just stay "Utterly wrong" and only add genuine numismatic items to my collections instead of wasting my money on this sort of Junk
You just continue buying these Carr coins and the presidential inauguration offerings and when the "Fad" is over at least you will have something to put in the scrap bucket

It wouldn't be worth his time and effort as there are not enough "Mug" collectors in Aus to justify him doing this.
He is better off sticking to the US coins where he has a much larger customer base

I seriously doubt this will be the case. In many respects, Dan Carr's productions, of which I own a few, are comparable to counterstamped coins. Here are a few counterstamped coins, stamped well over 100 years ago, will, IMHO, now readily sell for far more than melt value ...









Akin to these early merchants, Dan Carr is making a lasting impression on numismatics - pun intended!

Trout does not get it.

It doesn't matter if a majority of people like his coins or not. It is whether he has carved out a niche market for his work. That's all that counts.

Look at television for instance. Fox News won the primetime ratings war with under four million people. They are quite happy. Four million viewers is not even 2% of the US population. All Carr needs is a following for his coins. The rest will be determined by supply and demand.

His stuff is not my cup of tea either, but that does not mean that there is not a viable market for himself. It is also very arrogant for you to determine what all Australians like. I'm sure they are not all as presumptuous as you.

Just one last thing. You really need to quit policing everyone and commenting about who is rude. Just because you don't like someone's vision of art, does not mean you get away with being condescending towards the artist. Keep in mind that is someone's hard work and certain artists can be very sensitive about people being critical of their work. Take your own advice in the future.

@Trout ... Yes, seriously. Compare Carr's pieces with counterstamps as follows:

1. Coins are stamped.

2. Coins are re-purposed.

3. These stamped, re-purposed coins are collected by many.

4. Both genres evoke history at times.

5. Both tend to enhance the value of the host coins; this, granted that many random counterstamps tend to otherwise lessen numismatic value, whereas Carr's pieces do not.

One major difference between the two genres is that counterstamped coins remain legal tender, whereas the Carr pieces have nullified that possibility.

Perhaps, other followers of this thread can expand on my thoughts ...

The early counter stamped coins are a form of advertising and were never created simply for collectors and the chop marks were actually put there to denote that the coin was genuine.
Neither of these were trying to copy someone else's designs nor were they created to value add to the coin at that time.

This is where they are vastly different to the Dan Carr restrikes.

@Trout ... I agree, that there are differences between the Carr pieces and counterstamps. I simply wanted to point out what I see as some obvious similarities; and, specifically as regards your comment about stamped coins being relegated to merely bullion value, twenty years hence. The pictured silver coins with counterstamps are highly prized by many collectors and today worth far more than their bullion value. Of course, if anyone would like to sell me some of these for bullion value, I'd welcome the opportunity! (gentle sarcasm here and not a proposition).

Having collected counterstamps for over thirty years now, I want to address a few of your above statements.

While it's true that many counterstamps were a form of advertising, it's been my experience that the great majority of them served no such purpose. Coins were stamped and re-purposed for a great number of reasons.

Just as there were tokens, back in the 1800's that were specifically struck for collectors, there were most likely coins that were stamped for the same reason. For example, Bolen, who issued many collector tokens, also counterstamped coins.

Many counterstamps were indeed intended to add value to a coin. One of the reasons that we see so many U.S. merchant counterstamps on Spanish coins, particularly two real pieces, is that they weighed less than a quarter. The issuing merchant likely accepted them at par, as did many. Then too, there are many examples of coins having been stamped with a higher value by a given merchant.

Akin to the Dan Carr "restrikes" or overstrikes, as I would call them, there do exist some comparable examples of counterstamps as such, ones that virtually oblterate the host coin. These are rarely seen by most collectors, and that would explain why you would not know about them.

As for the copying of designs, many a nineteenth century gunsmith replicated the American eagle design seen on Liberty Seated and Bust coins.

Another thing that the Carr pieces and counterstamps have in common is that they challenge and advance (for many of us, not all) our knowledge and understanding of numismatics, history, economics, etc., and collecting habits in general.