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Would These Document Go Well With Civil War Era Coins

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We are in the process of coming up with a price for these documents.
I am thinking they would go well with a civil war coin collection.

Any opinions?

Discharge and pension papers
( there are more documents, just a sample)


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 Posted 10/21/2016  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaxenro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why limit it to coin collectors? There are collectors who specialize in civil war papers. They would go nice with a weapons or uniform display. There are a hundred possibilities besides coins
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Your right ... could be part of many different civil war display.

Was just looking at the signature of the wife's paper work.
Was signed by Sec. Work. By less than a year just missed
getting Albert B. Fall signature.

I like older documents like these ... I hope we can come up with
a price the owner will be ok with. She doesn't seem to have a
interest in them.
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I'm a history buff. I would love coins and these papers together. I would definitely add on other stuff as well, such as stated above.

There is definitely a market for all of this stuff.
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Looks like they sell for $100-400 on the bay. If someone famous signed it would probably be worth more.

This V&T waybill looks good with cc's:

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Any idea how long Susan Moore drew her pension? I know the last Civil War widow died just a few years ago. (Maudie Hopkins, died Aug 17, 2008)
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Good question Condor ...
The owner of these papers is suppose to be coming back
Monday .... I will ask if she has more information.
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You know just about every CSA veteran applied for and got state indigent or disabled veteran pensions after 1910. Almost all my male relatives on my father's side fought for the CSA during the civil war. I think every single one of them applied to the state of Georgia for a civil war vet pension at some point in their old age.
My great, great, grandfather got $60 a month from Georgia and all the uncles and cousins also applied for pensions because every male 17 and over was subject to the draft I the CSA. If you go to Ancestry.com or any of these websites you can easily get copies of the applications for CSA pensions and I think also for Union pensions.
The widows of CSA vets got tiny pensions. Really just a joke. If the old or disabled civil war vet did not have children or grandchildren to take care of him in his old age he became indigent pronto. Most of these guys had been farmers or did skilled or semi-skilled work that did not include pensions. I have my great, great
grandfather's parole papers and a few sets of handwritten orders him and his brothers were issued when they went on leave. I had a cousin, Dr. Archer Avary, that lived until 1937 and he was in Cobb's cavalry at the end of the Civil war. That is sort of unbelievable when you think of it. I would not sell any family documents. I even have the deed for land granted to an ancestor for fighting in the Seminole wars in 1830's. Where the heck did that land go?
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Great background info, thanks.
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terry .. that sounds like a lot of interesting documents to look
through.

I agree .. if I had family documents like these .. I would
never sell them.
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I even have the deed for land granted to an ancestor for fighting in the Seminole wars in 1830's. Where the heck did that land go?

If you know where the land was in the 1830's, you can go to the county courthouses in that area and trace the deed down through the years. Every time the land was sold, subdivided etc. the new deed would have to be recorded at the courthouse and it would become part of the title records and the abstract of the property. If you know the area but don't know where to start you can check the platt maps which will give the current owners and then you get the current deed and start tracing back to where your ancestor had it. I've done that for three pieces of property my brother bought here. Traced them back through the deeds, abstracts, platt maps etc back to the founding of the county in 1836.
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Conder10`1

One of my cousins traced my great, grandfather's family tree in the USA back to about 1660. One of the key markers are land deeds. Every time land was transferred it was recorded at the local courthouse as you say. Births, deaths, marriages may be lost to time but land transactions live forever. I know that in Maryland back in 17th century a plot of 100 acres was often referred to as a plantation. Because of constant westward expansion not every plot or plantation in the south at least was subdivided among the heirs. You know my cousin Herb hired some professional genealogist to trace his family. So far it has come to over 1300 pages of just those in his direct line. I am his 6th cousin twice removed what ever that means. His last name is Stanford and the emigration of his family from Maryland to Texas sort of follows our history. I wish he had coins. My family tree took an awful beathing on the male line during the civil war. I lost cousins at just about every major battle. You know early Americans had huge families and contrary to Europe most lived thus the population pressure to expand westward. If the average rural farming family of the time had ten children the overall population could double every generation I think because growth was exponential. Our country is a miracle and our coins are works of art to commemorate that miracle.
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